Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
No, like, the content we have today very likely wouldn't exist without them.

The only reason the community has become skilled at this game to the degree that content like DSR is possible is because of analytical tools like ACT. The game absolutely would not have been pushed as far as it has without players on the cutting edge frequently using these types of tools to collect and interpret data.

You seem to be confusing tools like Cactbot, which actually automate portions of gameplay, with vanilla ACT/FFLogs which simply package and chart existing information in a more human-friendly and accessible way.
So wait we'd never improve without those tools? I'm getting confused. I was lead to believe the content was designed to be beaten without a single third party tool and that includes ACT. Yet here you are telling me that players as a collective would never reach a level of doing so without analytical tools that let them pinpoint basically everything much faster than we'd do it without them? Is that how entire getting better process look like? Check the numbers, throw the log into analytical tool and do what it suggests? Now I question if I even want to reach that level

As of ACT wasn't one level of outrage coming from the fact that World First group used automatic call-out they programmed into their software?