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    SpectrePhantasia's Avatar
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    Mikael Naeuri
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    Alright, I'll bite. As someone who's an avid Nier fan and was playing Reincarnation well before this event was unveiled, the narrator of Mama does have a tendency to describe things as the character in focus sees them. As I see it, she's relaying information as if she's telling a story to the protagonist. However, I would agree with the idea that certainly not all of what is said in the text is reflective of how Emet would describe it. I'm afraid that landing on a square answer of what is objective and what is not is pretty much impossible, as the narrator is a very clear 3rd party that is equal parts describing surroundings as she is reading into the character's feelings.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpectrePhantasia View Post
    Alright, I'll bite. As someone who's an avid Nier fan and was playing Reincarnation well before this event was unveiled, the narrator of Mama does have a tendency to describe things as the character in focus sees them. As I see it, she's relaying information as if she's telling a story to the protagonist. However, I would agree with the idea that certainly not all of what is said in the text is reflective of how Emet would describe it. I'm afraid that landing on a square answer of what is objective and what is not is pretty much impossible, as the narrator is a very clear 3rd party that is equal parts describing surroundings as she is reading into the character's feelings.
    All the more reason why this stuff should've been shown in XIV, and not using stylised, very perspective-driven scenes like the post-Elpis one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    All the more reason why this stuff should've been shown in XIV, and not using stylised, very perspective-driven scenes like the post-Elpis one.
    So it's a good thing we got that, then. This is the exact same details we got from and through Emet's perspective, it's just that we got it across about four or five different scenes in two expansions, plus a short story or two. The Nier collab is just getting compressed into a few flowery passages with no interruptions.

    If you REALLY want to wring useful FFXIV lore we didn't have before out of this collab, then the most you'll actually get is the story of A-towa-cant in Thyrus' weapon story, which actually does have a few new pieces, as well as gathering details that actually aren't especially forthcoming in XIV itself.

    You could also see that depiction of the End of Days and the Sundering and notice that it's basically the same as Venat's own flashback, which is useful in confirming that the two accounts do corroborate and validate each other as sources. Which for the most part is probably not needed, but it's a useful point for at least one person I can think of.
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