Tale of Emet [FF14 x Nier Reincarnation event story]

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In Rak'tika Emet describes Zodiark with terms like "His grace", "A savior mighty and magnificent", and Hydaelyn as just "Hydaelyn" or very derisively as "your Mother". Hardly descriptors like "dark god", "dark deity", or "brighter god" and "the Light of the future". In particular here the narrator, when speaking, describes Zodiark in almost ominous tones but Hydaelyn in almost reverent tones. None of this really matches with an Emet perspective.

I still think that would fit with Emet, in the optional dialogue he seems to speak of Zodiark similarly.

Emet-Selch: And like one of your primals, He tempered us. It was only natural. There is no resisting such power. And so we Ascians came to exist solely to bring about the rule of darkness. His darkness. Of course, some would call us "evil" for it... and they would be fools. Though that is only to be expected, given their innate ability to conceive of the nature of our universe.

My point more generally though is that the narrator should not be taken at her word, as she’s describing Emets view and tale. Even if she were to be out of synch with him in certain moments I don’t think I’d buy her statements as fact, even if they swung in the other direction. The fact she calls them “wretched creatures” I think seals the deal for me.

Between the two slides showing them going from twisted and malformed to more fully shaped, the narrator literally says "Decades, centuries, millennia pass. As he works tirelessly, the wretched creatures begin to learn. They speak in new tongues, worship new gods, and forge new histories." We're jumping thousands of years between that shift, I don't really see how it can be said that there is "no indication" that the scene is changing.

Because nothing is changing about the scene, the only difference is the souls. The poses and positions are the exact same. And once again Emet is very clear that he still views them as malformed “half men” even after millennia pass. If his feeling that they were abominations was purely because of the initial effects that were visible after the Sundering, then those wouldn’t be valid to use on us or Varis right?

What are you referring to?

Around 15:45 in this video

https://youtu.be/fGm29ROnFlk

There are instances where WoL can seem to "understand" animals, but I think the game usually makes it clear that this is simply due to a lot of experience and intuition, not the Echo.

I’m referring to the lost little troll sidequest, where we communicate with a small troll who only Grrrs. The echo allows us to understand him perfectly.

The sundered then and the sundered now are probably nowhere near equivalent. I mean Emet outright says that intelligence and physicality is halved with each sundering, I don't see how the full 13/14ths sundering could possibly leave them with anything similar in terms of intellect and physicality, as this very narrative seems to outline.

Ardbert and co. seemed just as smart as us, same with all the people we met on the First.