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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    Chat bubbles also make it easier to pinpoint the person that's talking.
    So you understand why SE is cracking down on the unfair advantages addons like chat bubbles provide, then. It's not fair to non-cheater PC players and console players who have to look at the chat log and then try to find the nameplate of who's speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    So you understand why SE is cracking down on the unfair advantages addons like chat bubbles provide, then. It's not fair to non-cheater PC players and console players who have to look at the chat log and then try to find the nameplate of who's speaking.
    That seems a bit more circumstantial. Chat bubbles don't really provide an unfair advantage gameplay-wise.

    If I wanted to get more into the argument, consoles can be modded to have the same, it just takes a bit more effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    That seems a bit more circumstantial. Chat bubbles don't really provide an unfair advantage gameplay-wise.

    If I wanted to get more into the argument, consoles can be modded to have the same, it just takes a bit more effort.
    i'm pretty sure that is sarcasm.


    at least i hope it is lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomkei View Post
    i'm pretty sure that is sarcasm.


    at least i hope it is lol
    If it isn't sarcasm I'm just sad for humanity's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    So you understand why SE is cracking down on the unfair advantages addons like chat bubbles provide, then. It's not fair to non-cheater PC players and console players who have to look at the chat log and then try to find the nameplate of who's speaking.
    I can't believe chat bubble users get so much of an advantage. How am I supposed to read people's messages if they're not over the players head like every other mmo? It's unthinkable. I love having chat that makes me pretend we're still on AOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enjuden View Post
    I can't believe chat bubble users get so much of an advantage. How am I supposed to read people's messages if they're not over the players head like every other mmo? It's unthinkable. I love having chat that makes me pretend we're still on AOL.
    if i see anyone using a chat bubbles mod im reporting them immediately. totally unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    So you understand why SE is cracking down on-
    Hello there, just thought I'd correct you a bit here.
    They're actually cracking down on streamers only right now, as in, people who are intentionally choosing to stream the usage of add-ons/modifications directly attached to their Final FantasyXIV game clients.
    Now, as for the average Final FanatsyXIV players who dont need attention to breathe, none of the rest of you can be detected. Understand, I am not saying to use chat bubbles. I am saying if you use chat bubbles there is no actual way for anyone to know other than you that you're using them. No one is seeing you do it, therefore, no one can report you for it. The people being banned (reminder! These people are called "streamers"!) are being banned because a viewer sent the report after watching them use modifications clearly directly onto their Final FantasyXIV game clients. Ok? The only way anyone will know is if you streamed it. This is why people streaming the usage of modifications to their Final FantasyXIV game clients are being banned. Because they're streaming it and proving to everyone they can find that they are in fact doing it. If you simply play the game in your room quietly, you cannot get in trouble. As there is no way to know that you are doing it. You need to show someone (likely, strangers!) that you're doing it to get reported to a GM (reported, meaning that a player told on you because they saw you doing it!). So currently, the only way to get in trouble for using something like chat bubbles would be if you for some reason decided to go out of your way and stream yourself using them right there directly attached to your Final FantasyXIV game client. Hope that clears some things up for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
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    I'm very aware. Check out page 2 ~.^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    No one is seeing you do it, therefore, no one can report you for it.
    I guess, you underestimate the viciousness of some players. They will report you even without an evidence for something. They just hope, that a GM has a bad day and will still ban you. Or a mass report could trigger an autoban mechanism etc. The last thing happened in New World. The players figured out, that there is an autoban mechanism in place. And then they started to abuse it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Hello there, just thought I'd correct you a bit here.
    They're actually cracking down on streamers only right now, as in, people who are intentionally choosing to stream the usage of add-ons/modifications directly attached to their Final FantasyXIV game clients.
    Now, as for the average Final FanatsyXIV players who dont need attention to breathe, none of the rest of you can be detected. Understand, I am not saying to use chat bubbles. I am saying if you use chat bubbles there is no actual way for anyone to know other than you that you're using them. No one is seeing you do it, therefore, no one can report you for it. The people being banned (reminder! These people are called "streamers"!) are being banned because a viewer sent the report after watching them use modifications clearly directly onto their Final FantasyXIV game clients. Ok? The only way anyone will know is if you streamed it. This is why people streaming the usage of modifications to their Final FantasyXIV game clients are being banned. Because they're streaming it and proving to everyone they can find that they are in fact doing it. If you simply play the game in your room quietly, you cannot get in trouble. As there is no way to know that you are doing it. You need to show someone (likely, strangers!) that you're doing it to get reported to a GM (reported, meaning that a player told on you because they saw you doing it!). So currently, the only way to get in trouble for using something like chat bubbles would be if you for some reason decided to go out of your way and stream yourself using them right there directly attached to your Final FantasyXIV game client. Hope that clears some things up for you!
    They actually can do that. They don't want to (reasonable), but they can add anti cheat that is following for any changes of the game files or programs that attach to FF. Even if their anti cheat is not scaning your entire computer, but just looking into FF specifically it is still controversial because they cannot prove it. The only way to prove they are not spying on your pc with this software is by showing the code and what it does, but if they do so, people will find easy ways to bypass it, so it is no sense. What really bothers me in the last days is the community pressure to allow usage of some mods. This thing would require Square enix to evaluate every mod and check on every single update of those mods, this is just not happening, so the way I see it more likely, if people became too vocal, SE may just add anti cheat and block harmless mods too.
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