Quote Originally Posted by CrownySuccubus View Post
Yes, which is literally a buddhist argument. Buddhism's entire core belief is that life is suffering. Mankind, in Buddhist purview, is the only form of life capable of reaching enlightenment because they are the only ones who know can know suffering. In Buddhism, even Deva and Asura (their deities) cannot escape dukkha (suffering) specifically because their lives are so blissful that they don't understand it.

What I mean by saying that FFXIV assumes that humanity has a "functionally anti-buddhist mentality" is the assumption that all the masses (the anti-buddhists) must follow the super, special, enlightened few (the buddhists) in understanding suffering to truly save themselves.
Oh, I see the issue. I don't believe the ancients are "humanity" they are essentially - the Deva and Asura, incapable of escpaing suffering because thier lives were too blissful to meaningfully understand it. They would have become like the Plenty - at least that's what Venat believes.

In this view, Venat is essentially creating a mankind that is capable of escaping suffering by sundering the ancient dieties into mortals.

Venat as a god is responsible for the world we live in, she had faith in us, and comparatively little faith in her fellow ancients. I think condemning her for that is as meaningful as condemning Prometheus for betraying Zeus and giving fire to humanity. I guess that's where I'm struggling with this discussion, yes - you can argue that Venat did a wrong to her fellow ancients, she would even agree with you. So what?