Quote Originally Posted by Ardyvald View Post
I ignored this raid, at the cost of losing a chunk of the ShB expansion.
You may find my reasons dumb, but again, I don't find it fun to slab a collab this way.

I have no problem against people enjoying it, in fact I'm happy for them.
I'm just one of those who didn't like this kind of implementation. Is all.
I felt this deserved a reply of its own.

First, nah I don't find your reasons dumb. If anything from the perspective of a fan I kind of wanted to explain my reasons why I don't think it's dumb and why it goes beyond the pale of just NieR alone.

Regarding the series that are FF related, I don't disagree with you. In fact, I'm with all of that and agree 100%. Especially with MOTR for Endwalker. There's relevancy to basically all of the Alliances - even if Yoshi P himself says that MOTR isn't relevant to the main story and optional.

The relevancy of NieR's alliance? There's life and activity beyond the stars. It was apparent with the Omega storyline and even more so since we found Omega's civilization in Ultima Thule. An entire race of machine lifeforms crash landing god knows how many years ago on one of the shards.

I suppose the main relevancies here are 1) there's creation outside of the shards and 2) there's an existential threat that merits our attention and Norvrandt was in apparent danger post the Light Wardens. The former we established a long while ago of course with other series crossovers.
If there's any takeaway to doing the NieR raids aside from the fanservice... it's gonna be those two for sure.

Do I believe it has relevancy to the Final Fantasy line? Nah. I don't. But it did open up a whole series of questions as a NieR fan who has been in XIV since 1.0. Beating Automata and going thru all of the endings and the endless expanse of possibilities that makes it fun for fans of other games to enjoy.

We also encountered some other non related otherworldly series such as Monster Hunter World - which is also a permanent staple in XIV. We get to own a Rathalos for ourselves AND have a Palico and Poogie.

And in an earlier time we had Dragon Quest monsters to a lesser extent come in thru a portal somewhere and we sent them packing. Even dealt with a merchant with the traditional DQ "Ye olde english!" dialogue that DQ fans have come to know and love.

If anything this has set a standard of fun and exploration beyond the scope. Sure... we have purists that rabblerouse about such crossovers. To that degree that's on them to do it or not - I just take offense when they are being absolute buzzkills about it. What I'm against is people saying "It's not fun! It's awful! It has no place! We're absolute FF purists!" and just ruining the moods and 'tudes of those like myself who have fun with things like this. Like... they try so hard to convince us that we're wrong and they're right - and that pisses me off because I'm sitting in my corner here enjoying my experience. I don't need some asshole telling me I'm wrong for loving it.

And to be clear! You're not who I refer to. You're good! You've got legit reasons and haven't attacked anyone for it. So thank you for that!

I understand where you're coming from. And hopefully my explanation clears up where I stand and come from too. =)