Japanese FFXIV streamer receives a suspension for using add-ons.

[Havenchild]

Problem is FFXIV has a small streaming community already and the impact streaming can have on a game is pretty huge. So yes, I think what SE is doing here is a mistake.



Its not cheating, get over yourself.

You could also stream without, le gasp, meteor marks showing the AoE Ranges ( and spacing needed to not fail the drops).
You could also stream without Cactbot flaunting period.
You could also stream without a parser present.
You could also stream without plugins that allow for expanded information not natively available to the client.

People like you simply don't understand that streaming is not the problem here. The problem is openly flaunting tools and plugins that are not natively available in the game, of which not even the entire playerbase has access too. If they determine it's against the ToS, which everyone knows it already is, then yeah they can just ban people.

People getting bold with the ToS breaking, then wondering why SE cracking down. Dumb people being dumb then complaining when there are consequences.

[Ransu]

You could also stream without, le gasp, meteor marks showing the AoE Ranges ( and spacing needed to not fail the drops).
You could also stream without Cactbot flaunting period.
You could also stream without a parser present.
You could also stream without plugins that allow for expanded information not natively available to the client.

People like you simply don't understand that streaming is not the problem here. The problem is openly flaunting tools and plugins that are not natively available in the game, of which not even the entire playerbase has access too. If they determine it's against the ToS, which everyone knows it already is, then yeah they can just ban people.

People getting bold with the ToS breaking, then wondering why SE cracking down. Dumb people being dumb then complaining when there are consequences.

And I'm saying there's nothing wrong with those tools and SE needs to get the stick out of their butts.

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And I'm saying there's nothing wrong with those tools and SE needs to get the stick out of their butts.

Well you are just a random nobody on the internet.

You are not a dev, you are not a GM, you don't work for SE.

So yeah...

Cheating is still cheating regardless of what you think.

[Ransu]

Well you are just a random nobody on the internet.

You are not a dev, you are not a GM, you don't work for SE.

So yeah...

Cheating is still cheating regardless of what you think.

And when a ton of randoms stop playing and hurt squares bottom line? Then what? You can't just dismiss the issue here because you think its "cheating." ACT and dalmund have legitimate QOL issues that people will quit the game over if they get suspended over something completely harmless.

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And when a ton of randoms stop playing and hurt squares bottom line? Then what? You can't just dismiss the issue here because you think its "cheating." ACT and dalmund have legitimate QOL issues that people will quit the game over if they get suspended over something completely harmless.

Again... its not me thinking anything.

Its on the freaking rules.

[RyuDragnier]

And when a ton of randoms stop playing and hurt squares bottom line? Then what? You can't just dismiss the issue here because you think its "cheating." ACT and dalmund have legitimate QOL issues that people will quit the game over if they get suspended over something completely harmless.

Dalamud and ACT users likely won't be touched. However, things that can let you see mechanics ahead of time like Cactbot or people using triggers...that's when you're asking for the banhammer.

[Rolder50]

Dalamud and ACT users likely won't be touched. However, things that can let you see mechanics ahead of time like Cactbot or people using triggers...that's when you're asking for the banhammer.

The couple of streamers who got hit so far were only using Dalamud and ACT, and not triggers, so?

[RyuDragnier]

The couple of streamers who got hit so far were only using Dalamud and ACT, and not triggers, so?

Weren't they also being report brigaded by 5chan?

[VerdeLuck]

Dalamud and ACT users likely won't be touched. However, things that can let you see mechanics ahead of time like Cactbot or people using triggers...that's when you're asking for the banhammer.

All of those are against TOS if you admit to having them in game, on stream, or on the forums and someone cares enough to report you. They can't see what you're specifically running in your computer, but they will 100% ban you if you make it known and do the work for GMs by admitting to having them. There are no greenlit or safe game modifications. The post from the developers yesterday was very clear about that.

[RyuDragnier]

All of those are against TOS if you admit to having them in game, on stream, or on the forums and someone cares enough to report you. They can't see what you're specifically running in your computer, but they will 100% ban you if you make it known and do the work for GMs by admitting to having them. There are no greenlit or safe game modifications. The post from the developers yesterday was very clear about that.

It was more that most people do not care if you're using graphics mods, UI HUD mods or parsers (as long as you're not harassing with one), they don't really hurt anybody or give you unfair advantages.