Are S-hunts spawn shield a necessity now?

[RitsukoSonoda]

S rank hunts are basically the game's version of FFXI's HNM's. They aren't meant to be a content the entire server comes to claim when spawned. If you're in the area actively trying to spawn it then you should be able to reach it before it's killed. However people are under no obligation to stand around and wait for 200 people to teleport into the zone and reach the area it spawned at before killing it. There is no need for invincibility timers or shields to allow people to jump to a different world then teleport to the zone then run to the spawn location because the people doing it have no ownership of the spawn. They aren't entitled to claim rewards on it. Being in an Hunts LS does not give you claim to any hunt spawns at all.

[Kranel_San]

Kinda sad such a thing feels needed. Early pulls suck, but if the 100 other people standing around didn't follow up, then the person who pulled would just die and it would reset.

This never happens of course...so it's the community as a whole's fault.

It feels terrible when even EW S-hunts get early-pulled and die quickly while a lot of players are still on the way. It's an on-going struggle that is on for long.

S rank hunts are basically the game's version of FFXI's HNM's. They aren't meant to be a content the entire server comes to claim when spawned. If you're in the area actively trying to spawn it then you should be able to reach it before it's killed. However people are under no obligation to stand around and wait for 200 people to teleport into the zone and reach the area it spawned at before killing it. There is no need for invincibility timers or shields to allow people to jump to a different world then teleport to the zone then run to the spawn location because the people doing it have no ownership of the spawn. They aren't entitled to claim rewards on it. Being in an Hunts LS does not give you claim to any hunt spawns at all.

Unless people actually stand next to an aetheryte in wait for a spawn. It's increasingly becoming very difficult to reach S-hunts in time. I have personal experiences when I couldn't even reach ARR S-hunts when they were in my world.
They're not a content for the whole server, but they're also not a content for a couple of players. Saying you don't have obligation to wait doesn't give you the right to negatively ruin it on 100 other player. Its not a content for you, its a content for us all.

[RitsukoSonoda]

It feels terrible when even EW S-hunts get early-pulled and die quickly while a lot of players are still on the way. It's an on-going struggle that is on for long.



Unless people actually stand next to an aetheryte in wait for a spawn. It's increasingly becoming very difficult to reach S-hunts in time. I have personal experiences when I couldn't even reach ARR S-hunts when they were in my world.
They're not a content for the whole server, but they're also not a content for a couple of players. Saying you don't have obligation to wait doesn't give you the right to negatively ruin it on 100 other player. Its not a content for you, its a content for us all.

Can we just drop the farce here about portraying yourself as an advocate for other people? The reason you made this thread is because you're upset ppl did not wait for you to transfer worlds, teleport to a zone, then run to spawn coordinates for an S rank spawn that you did nothing to help spawn. If you aren't actively helping spawn the S rank then you have no place to complain if the people that did spawn it kill it before you get there. Again being in a hunt LS does not entitle you to every spawn that appears and gets reported in it. To flip your attempt at an argument the other way. Why should 100 people wait 5+ minutes for you to come running in from another world? That's collectively 500+ minutes of other people's life wasted because you want the count for your mount achievement to increase by 1.

[Kranel_San]

Can we just drop the farce here about portraying yourself as an advocate for other people? The reason you made this thread is because you're upset ppl did not wait for you to transfer worlds, teleport to a zone, then run to spawn coordinates for an S rank spawn that you did nothing to help spawn. If you aren't actively helping spawn the S rank then you have no place to complain if the people that did spawn it kill it before you get there. Again being in a hunt LS does not entitle you to every spawn that appears and gets reported in it. To flip your attempt at an argument the other way. Why should 100 people wait 5+ minutes for you to come running in from another world? That's collectively 500+ minutes of other people's life wasted because you want the count for your mount achievement to increase by 1.

Did you participate in Light S-hunts? I'm sure you did not.
I know what I'm saying and how things are going in here. The same early-pullers going out for months, camping in the zones with potential S-hunts spawn to early-pull them as soon as they spawn. I can go out myself and spawn S-hunts if all I want is the kills, but I'd rather not feed early-pullers and let them ruin it on 100-200 other players who want to get the achievements and the rewards but arrive to find them dead. This is a massive multiplayer online game and not a single-player so you're not the only one out there. You are not more important than me. It's not about me or you, but its about the playerbase as whole. The behavior of "My benefit over yours" is sick when the option of "My and your benefit" exist and isn't difficult to do. S-hunts were designed by the devs to be a community effort with world-hopping and as such aren't and should not be an exclusive content to whoever is on the site waiting for them to spawn. It's just a poor excuse for a toxic behavior.

[Canadane]

The same early-pullers going out for months

There's no such thing, friend.
Only late arrivals.

[Kranel_San]

There's no such thing, friend.
Only late arrivals.

Late arrivals at the same minute is something new.

[Deveryn]

Late arrivals at the same minute is something new.

Late arrivals in the same minute is all those people agreeing with the early puller rather than waiting for some kind of official call. One person can early pull and people can watch them die. They choose not to.