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    Grimoire-M's Avatar
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by butchersblock View Post
    Good post. You're one of the few people who seem to understand all the reasonings for the Samurai changes. The idea was good - I recognize, as a Samurai player, that the job's burst needed to be addressed.
    The problem is they went about this is one of the worst possible ways they could have.
    I have to disagree. The problem with piercing/Slashing is it was exclusive utility. Only certain classes could exploit those buffs at all. By contrast anyone can be a Dance Partner, and the ideal candidate is dictated by the context of that player’s performance alone. Blunt was also a strong counter example to that back in the day, since the only way anyone outside the Monk could use that buff was through rod/booksmacking and DRK provided int down as well as fitting fights better, it wasn’t something that kept Monk relevant.

    Additionally the problems with Dancer/Bard still aren’t fixed, They just moved on to the next top DPS with high burst, Ninja.

    Ironically, there is a better solution that actually involves Kaiten itself. Change the boost to be the auto crit/dhit effect and refund a portion of the Kenki if you would have landed the crit/dhit on that attack. This would require rebalancing the Kenki cost to 25 or 30 (so the refund would be 10 on a dhit and 15-20 on a crit) to keep the proportional gain intact but that would still reduce the number of Kaitens you get to use overall.

    That kind of effect does suit a proc based job better but by using the data we know SE already calculates by default means it’s not nearly as expensive to implement as Gruntler’s suggestion. I could see a lot of auto-crit abilities getting this effect.
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    Jinn Goda
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    Twintania
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    Marauder Lv 41
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    I have to disagree. The problem with piercing/Slashing is it was exclusive utility. Only certain classes could exploit those buffs at all. By contrast anyone can be a Dance Partner, and the ideal candidate is dictated by the context of that player’s performance alone.
    It's not just player performance though. There is almost no world where a Dancer would've considered DRG over a SAM given skill parity. What they did with Samurai did not fix this issue, as you've pointed out Dancer just moved on to the next biggest burst job - Ninja. It was a step in the right direction, albeit executed very poorly. There needs to be less emphasis on cramming everything onto 2 minute cooldowns, and the DPS shouldn't almost exclusively come from those raid buff windows.
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