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  1. #11
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    lol ><

    From what we've seen, MNK is the best DD in this fight hands down, but still can't figure out how to survive the last ~30%.

    Incapacitation is pretty much pointless, the heads just grow back in like 15 seconds anyways (I would have preferred they gave the heads 5-6k hp each and did not let them grow back). There's literally no safe place to stand and attack at the same time. But there's still a few things we haven't tested, breaking the tail being one of them. Not sure if it remains broken the entire fight, but I'm doubtful about that since everything else that we've broken regenerates. However, if that is the case, 1 PGL should be enough to break the tail fairly quickly which would open up a safe spot for all melee to stand during the entire fight. We'll be trying this tomorrow.

    Another thing that might work is breaking his legs. We've never tried this before and have no idea what affect it has on the boss, but if it's anything like Great Buffalo it might buy us enough time to safely burn the last 30% down before he gets back up.
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    BTW, the safest way to tank this is..... use GLA, Sanguine Rite and just Cure / SS bomb yourself. And you would never lose hate that way either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    lol ><

    From what we've seen, MNK is the best DD in this fight hands down, but still can't figure out how to survive the last ~30%.

    Incapacitation is pretty much pointless, the heads just grow back in like 15 seconds anyways (I would have preferred they gave the heads 5-6k hp each and did not let them grow back). There's literally no safe place to stand and attack at the same time. But there's still a few things we haven't tested, breaking the tail being one of them. Not sure if it remains broken the entire fight, but I'm doubtful about that since everything else that we've broken regenerates. However, if that is the case, 1 PGL should be enough to break the tail fairly quickly which would open up a safe spot for all melee to stand during the entire fight. We'll be trying this tomorrow.

    Another thing that might work is breaking his legs. We've never tried this before and have no idea what affect it has on the boss, but if it's anything like Great Buffalo it might buy us enough time to safely burn the last 30% down before he gets back up.
    You pretty much have to be flawless during the last 30% as a DD. Almost always moving. The breaths keep you from the front and sides, scorpion sting keeps you from behind, VotR is a close range AoE and then the Wompee the sandworm tries to be friends. Where as a BLM can literally stand in the same spot the whole fight and nuke away . . . we need Wompee the sandworm to come out of the walls and feast upon mages.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    lol ><

    From what we've seen, MNK is the best DD in this fight hands down, but still can't figure out how to survive the last ~30%.

    Incapacitation is pretty much pointless, the heads just grow back in like 15 seconds anyways (I would have preferred they gave the heads 5-6k hp each and did not let them grow back). There's literally no safe place to stand and attack at the same time. But there's still a few things we haven't tested, breaking the tail being one of them. Not sure if it remains broken the entire fight, but I'm doubtful about that since everything else that we've broken regenerates. However, if that is the case, 1 PGL should be enough to break the tail fairly quickly which would open up a safe spot for all melee to stand during the entire fight. We'll be trying this tomorrow.

    Another thing that might work is breaking his legs. We've never tried this before and have no idea what affect it has on the boss, but if it's anything like Great Buffalo it might buy us enough time to safely burn the last 30% down before he gets back up.
    Is it viable to walk him through all the sand plumes in the beginning to get him down fast? Just curious.

    I'll also note the legs next run.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    You pretty much have to be flawless during the last 30% as a DD. Almost always moving. The breaths keep you from the front and sides, scorpion sting keeps you from behind, VotR is a close range AoE and then the Wompee the sandworm tries to be friends. Where as a BLM can literally stand in the same spot the whole fight and nuke away . . . we need Wompee the sandworm to come out of the walls and feast upon mages.
    Meh, I was really hoping the answer would be a bit more original than that lol. We'll still try breaking the tail and legs tonight and see what happens. Still, I can't for the life of me understand why they would make so many of his body parts breakable when it actually does absolutely nothing to help the fight. I mean, they did go through the extra effort to make the incapacitations visible on him, why are they so pointless? lol

    We're also considering having 2 MNKs on his left side equipped with gloom arrow. That's ~320 dmg to the dragon every 10 seconds and it only takes 1200dmg to break it, so 40 seconds to incapacitate it. But eating just 1 breath = death for MNK as I'm sure you already know lol.

    Oh well, will post later with results.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Is it viable to walk him through all the sand plumes in the beginning to get him down fast? Just curious.

    I'll also note the legs next run.
    You can run through the traps at any time as long as you're not standing in them when they explode. For the first ~70% the traps are not an issue at all, it's the last phase that gets a bit tricky.
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  6. #16
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    Update:

    Tail remains broken once you get rid of it. This opens up a huge safe spot for melee behind him in the last phase. However, the problem with this is that only Maim can break the tail. So you'd need either 1 PGL (not MNK ; ; ) or 2 WARS to break it before the last phase begins.

    PGL can hit 400+ with maim when fully buffed vs WAR's ~100. It just sucks that class is better than job here.. PGL is definitely weaker than MNK, but it seems like a fair trade. 1 MNK and 1 PGL would be ideal for melee DPS here.

    Still testing what happens with leg incapacitation. Also testing if heads remain broken if you break them after tail is down.


    Edit: Another thing I noticed, heads can be broken with limb WS's too not just outer WS.

    Dragon: Heavy Thrust, Impulse Drive, Gloom Arrow
    Ram: Savage Blade, Path of the Storm, Flat Blade, Godsbane

    Edit again: Legs seem to have a ton of HP. Spent the whole fighting using mostly Demolish and Leaden Arrow, and I'm sure we had a BRD as well with a few Leaden Arrows. Could not break them. Wonder if anyone has broken them yet?
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    Last edited by MeowyWowie; 03-17-2012 at 08:43 AM.

  7. #17
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    You sure only maim can break the tail? Thought I saw a video where a MNK broke it.
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  8. #18
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    As far as I know, yes.

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com.../battle02.html

    You sure it wasn't a PGL? Because if a MNK can break it I'd be very pleased lol. PGL auto attack is about 35-40 a hit, MNK is 50+. MNK also has increased weaponskill damage.
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  9. #19
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    Nice update Meowy thanks.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYtCSg53Bc

    7min mark. Breaks it with Dragon Kick
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