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    Junpei Iorii
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    This shouldn't even exist in the first place tbh, getting oneshot by rng through no fault of your own is a terrible mechanic in pvp.
    I'm more forgiving for MCH because it's such a very tiny percentage where it could happen.
    I don't even usually have it proc and I MCH regularly.

    I feel like SAM and their Chiten + LB combo is brutal. You can pretty much all wipe at full
    because you accidentally hit the SAM or something. That one is way worse imo.

    Also NIN can kill you if you're lower than 50% your HP up to 3 people.
    I mean there's much worse out there than MCH but yeah lol.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 05-08-2022 at 04:31 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    I'm more forgiving for MCH because it's such a very tiny instance where it could happen.
    I don't even usually have it proc and I MCH regularly.

    I feel like SAM and their Chiten + LB combo is brutal. You can pretty much all wipe
    because you accidentally hit the SAM or something. That one is way worse imo.
    RNG kill still shouldn't exist and SAM LB should be countered by Guard like everything else. There is no point that SAM can freely get a kill against any jobs that place things on ground or have delayed "sure" damage like SGE,DRG,GNB, SMN etc. that literally cannot press certain buttons if SAM has LB up or they can instantly retaliate. I see so many SAM just instantly turn fights into 5v4 when they just tip their toes into SGE, DRG or GNB LB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    RNG kill still shouldn't exist.
    I don't disagree and I never said it should exist.
    I just personally do not find the 3% Chainsaw OP compared to
    SAM's LB that can delete the entire team if you accidentally hit 'em.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    I'm more forgiving for MCH because it's such a very tiny percentage where it could happen.
    I don't even usually have it proc and I MCH regularly.

    I feel like SAM and their Chiten + LB combo is brutal. You can pretty much all wipe at full
    because you accidentally hit the SAM or something. That one is way worse imo.

    Also NIN can kill you if you're lower than 50% your HP up to 3 people.
    I mean there's much worse out there than MCH but yeah lol.
    I do agree. While the instant kill on MCH still shouldn't exist, simply because this shouldn't be a thing in pvp in general, the nukes on NIN and SAM are a lot more frequent.

    Ninja feels frustrating to die to because in most cases you can't even see it coming, you just drop from a healthy 50% to instantly dead.

    And Zantetsuken shouldn't work on AOEs that just happen to touch the SAM.
    I would be completely fine with the instant kill if it were simply down to you messing up, because you attacked the SAM while their counter was up, not because you happen to hit someone else and your skill just happens to do aoe damage. With how limited the toolkits are you sometimes simply can't not use that skill.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 05-08-2022 at 05:30 AM.

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