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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Why ask people who don't give two cents about the game?
    They do care, or they would not have taken the poll. The people who took the poll are representative of the people Yoshida is tageting with the game: people who left the game, people who might come back, people who are playing, and people who have some interest in the game.

    , Wolfie stop calling people "stupid".
    I'm saying that it's implied in your link you gave.
    Then read them, understand them, and become educated so that you can realize it's not an attack on your character, but on the illogical and inconsistent ways that you debate and argue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Not to mention I know for a fact that the exact question you ask was answered.
    Well, Rokien answered it. He wants open world content to have exclusive gear. So he's not satisfied with people also receiving an instanced version of the same thing, if they want to go that route. Already posted my thoughts on that.

    What is your answer, though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Why ask people who don't give two cents about the game?

    Also, I was asking why wasn't there a poll about it.


    Also, Wolfie stop calling people "stupid".
    I'm saying that it's implied in your link you gave.
    See I figured that is what your intent was... why was there no question in the poll about open world and instances. I'm pretty sure they did not have it there because they felt it was answered in the last poll... though maybe they need to go back and rethink it and ask again? Though they should have enough options for answers and not just be one or the other because as I have stated and you know Rokien... I think we need both for a really good game to show.

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Well, Rokien answered it. He wants open world content to have exclusive gear. So he's not satisfied with people also receiving an instanced version of the same thing, if they want to go that route. Already posted my thoughts on that.

    What is your answer, though?
    I also said exclusive gear for instances as well if you read.....

    Don't put words in my text.

    I also said craftable gear soo that everyone can have some along with U/U
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    Why ask people who don't give two cents about the game?
    Because Square Enix wants their money.

    It's not that they don't care, it's just that they couldn't tolerate playing the game in it's current state. Which it won't be in 2.0 when SE hopes those people come back.

    The current server populations won't be enough to keep this game online after they essentially made it twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Yeah, Shposhae was so popular as an outdoor dungeon.
    Would it have been anymore popular as a instance? Look at Toto-rak I'm sure more people accidentally wander into Shposhae than people even conjure the thought of visiting Toto-rak (Aside from farming seals).

    Low level content has been almost instantly obsolete due to the rediculous level curve of...nothing. Everyone is at 50 so fast the point of sub-50 gear/content is moot.

    So I don't see the point your trying to make.

    Give us a rank 50 open dungeon (Like the strongholds but larger less packed every 2 steps) and more interactivity and I'm sure you would see more than a few people stumble into it.
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Because Square Enix wants their money.
    This is true... as would any company that is offering a product... this product is an MMO and they would want to make it so the most people will buy and play it with a paying subscription. If something was wrong you would want to get the opinion of the most people you could on stuff even if they are going to be leaving your game soon... it is so you can make the changes and possibly pull those lost back into the fold...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    What is your answer, though?
    I have given the answer to that question a minimum of 3 times in this thread alone. Are you just "cherry picking" post to attack people on ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    I also said exclusive gear for instances as well if you read.....

    Don't put words in my text.

    I also said craftable gear soo that everyone can have some along with U/U
    I didn't put any words in your text, you yourself said you want open world to have exclusive gear. Unlike instances and crafting, which give everyone a fair shot at obtaining gear, open world does not. People who don't get the claim on a mob walk away with neither the opportunity to fight the NM, nor any gear. At least with instances they can attempt and fail, and with crafting they can attempt and walk away from frustration/boredom/whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I have given the answer to that question a minimum of 3 times in this thread alone. Are you just "cherry picking" post to attack people on ?
    Here's a list of posts you made in this topic:


    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Buy them from my over priced retainer after my LS takes down the mobs you appearently make very clear you feel you will be unable to make claim on or take down yourself ???
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    You folks do realize that there are other MMOs out there besides GW, WoW, and FFXI right? There are other MMOs that have had slight differences in the way they did some of there raid content that may be more accurate to what some of you want.

    Like it or not, we need open world HNMs, open world dungeons, and open world raids. We need them because there are just as many players that want them as there are who want instanced raids and dungeans. It would be foolish to exclude one group or the other by limiting content. We need all of the above, hands down, no questions asked. Argueing as if we should exclude one or the other is counter productive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    You are so direly confussed by having said this, I am feeling charitable enough to mail you a dollar so you can step out of the house and buy yourself a clue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Question 10 ask about the target claiming system and offers a very specific hypothetical limitation.

    While your out buying yourself that clue, drop by and pick up "Reading Comprehension for Dummies"

    Not too mention the link you posted is
    Letter from the Producer, V (03/03/2011)

    Last I checked this is 2012.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Talk out of your backside much? You blurt out made up numbers. That is a fact
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    You are linking a poll in which 90% of the polsters do not have active accounts. We are not debating what people over a year ago, who were playing for free thought. We are interested in what paying customers now desire.Not to mention the only question about instanced/non instanced content referes to the targeting system in reference to raids. Not instances or non instanced material itself. A little reading comprehension can go a log way. Try it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    It is a conditional question. This thread is not about a conditional open world or instanced situation. This thread is also about what paying players want, not what past freerolling players who no longer play wanted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Tell yourself whatever you have to to convince yourself its a fact, that is fine my friend. A fact would be a pole that ask the diect question in debate here and not a conditional one and would include those playing. As you ademently stated the player base. Not the potential player base. Not the past player base.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    You need to read the OP. The content of the OP is more relavent to the tittle. Very specifically initiated the thread in reference to "not having open world content changed to instanced"
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    You mean as in how it related to you and your references being specifically inaccurate to the actual topic and how you refuse to aknowledge that we are refering to curing paying player base and not the over a year past of the freeroll players?
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Yes, turned by 2 posters. wolfie and jinko.

    So if your going to clutter up this thread with post that are off topic and only attacking post of players just because the disagree with your friends, do you agree with my several previous post, that we simply need a standard mix of both instanced and non instanced?
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    No one here is open world only. Not to mention I know for a fact that the exact question you ask was answered. You are clearly making false accusations, having not read all of the discussion. Again you are being counter productive for....well heck , i don't know why. Why you would falsy label everyone here as you have really makes it hard for anyone to see you as nothing less then a troll.
    Can you please point to me where in these posts you are talking about your opinion on replicating open world content in an instance? I'd love to see it.

    And for the record, your opening post in this topic was an ad hominem attack. A big chunk of your posts in this topic are ad hominem attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I didn't put any words in your text, you yourself said you want open world to have exclusive gear. Unlike instances and crafting, which give everyone a fair shot at obtaining gear, open world does not. People who don't get the claim on a mob walk away with neither the opportunity to fight the NM, nor any gear. At least with instances they can attempt and fail, and with crafting they can attempt and walk away from frustration/boredom/whatever.


    LOL, see you are, Because I if you would have read my post, I said the nms(open world) could have craft able gear/ u/u(ya know like the RNMs we have now, drops an item to craft, ya know). While Instances have their own exclusive gear, but are not better than others. Just different stats and what not. Soo, you are changing the way I'm saying things.
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