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  1. #121
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    More public dungeons! Make instance for quests if anything.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikefmc View Post
    whoa, your telling me you want no competition?...so because you dont want the competition...that means i have to suffer?
    There are multiple ways of having a competition. A claim race however is not that exciting, especially for those who didn't get the claim. After than it's more of just a bore while you wait for the ToD.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikefmc View Post
    Then i dont know.. dont?

    If you dont want to do it, then dont. But just because you dont want too. Doesnt mean people that want to.. should not able too.
    Then would you be opposed to the solution I gave above? Zones like Mun-tuy are kept as-is, but for people that want to, they can go to the aetherial gate and start an instanced version of it. Same monsters, same bosses, you don't see them, they don't see you. You can stay in the non-instanced version and kill the NM there, which will have the same drops and drop rates as the one in the instanced version.


    Example: if you only liked pve content and didnt like pvp content. well that doesnt mean it shouldnt be implemented for the people that do.
    I wouldn't depending on how that PVP is implemented. Do some people who show up for that PVP walk away with nothing gained, not even a chance to fight someone? Then I'm against it. Does everyone get a chance to fight and the losers walk away with lesser rewards? Then I'm for it.

    Open-world PVE content forces the losers to waste time and walk away with nothing.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    There should be a mix of open and instanced content like in XI. The last thing I want Is something like Dungeon Fighter Fantasy just because people aren't sociable and can't comprehend the massive multiplayer aspect of a MMO.
    Absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainHoward View Post
    I just miss sky from XI.....i think it is the perfect example of how to build open world content, I feel that once they implement an alliance party format (possibly 2 to 3 groups of 8 teaming together) it will broaden the spectrum of open world
    Sky and Sea, alike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    Okay, here's my suggestion on how to make everyone happy:
    Sounds good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    That's all it is.

    They want bragging rights because they managed to steal an opportunity away and ruin someone else's day.
    Cool story bro.
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  5. #125
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    @ Wolfie and Jinko (who seem to be the minority here)

    I never camped an nm for bragging rights, it was a friendly competition, in fact I normally talked to the people I'm camping with.

    Also, ya instanced gear should not wield the same things as open world gear. Because, lets face it open world would be harder to get the gear than the instanced(because of spawn times and camping). If you don't wanna camp the nm don't get that gear, skip it and get a different gear from a instanced dungeon.

    Now, I'm not saying that one gear should be better than the other. I'm saying that X hat peice should have 15str and the instanced hat piece should have 15acc or something of the sort. Because I an open world lover, doesn't wanna be short handed on gear, nor would the instanced lovers wanna be.

    I'm just aking yoshi to keep and add open world dungeons along side instances, and have NMS with long spawn times, with good gear(possibly craft able gear with U/U gear.) So, if you don't wanna camp nms DON'T no one is making you.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Because, lets face it open world would be harder to get the gear than the instanced(because of spawn times and camping).
    Depends on the design of the instance. In the open world the challenge is getting claim. But in an instance the entire environment can be a part of the battle.

    Instance is not synonymous with easy.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    @ Wolfie and Jinko (who seem to be the minority here)
    We're in the minority because we're posting in a topic created by and for people who like open world content. See my earlier post about open world vs instanced content, FFXIV's own players want instanced over open 4 to 1.

    I never camped an nm for bragging rights, it was a friendly competition, in fact I normally talked to the people I'm camping with.
    You are also in the minority on this. NMs and especially HNMs whose respawns were counted by days were extremely cutthroat in FFXI.

    Also, ya instanced gear should not wield the same things as open world gear. Because, lets face it open world would be harder to get the gear than the instanced(because of spawn times and camping). If you don't wanna camp the nm don't get that gear, skip it and get a different gear from a instanced dungeon.

    Now, I'm not saying that one gear should be better than the other. I'm saying that X hat peice should have 15str and the instanced hat piece should have 15acc or something of the sort. Because I an open world lover, doesn't wanna be short handed on gear, nor would the instanced lovers wanna be.

    I'm just aking yoshi to keep and add open world dungeons along side instances, and have NMS with long spawn times, with good gear(possibly craft able gear with U/U gear.) So, if you don't wanna camp nms DON'T no one is making you.
    And here it is. You're not only not content to have your open world content, you also want the gear to be exclusive. When you open world guys made it sound like you didn't really care about the gear, and you wanted the open world experience, you had a leg to stand on. Now that you've confirmed that you also care about the gear, you've confirmed what I've been saying for a while. You don't actually care about anyone's experience with this content, you care about having your dumb competition and being able to swing your epeen around and rub it in the faces of the people who couldn't get that gear -- even if you will never admit to it.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    See my earlier post about open world vs instanced content, FFXIV's own players want instanced over open 4 to 1.
    Talk out of your backside much? You blurt out made up numbers. That is a fact
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Talk out of your backside much? You my friend are a bold face liar. you blurt out made up numbers. That is a fact
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    79.3% to 20.7%. That's 4 to 1, bro.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    79.3% to 20.7%. That's 4 to 1, bro.
    Point. Set. Match.
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