The SAM changes - and the current direction of job balance - is LAZY. Here's why

[Ransu]

I actually support SAM changes,

Nothing wrong with it,

Made the job easier to navigate through,

It’s only stubborn fools that are reluctant for change & just throws tantrums at it.

It already happened! Now move on or still flow over the forums with more disappointments

How does removing kaiten make the job easier? The APM didn't change at all. Now we just spam shinten and weave gyoten in place of kaiten. You clearly don't know how to play the job at all.

[Vencio]

…I have a Lv.90 SAM & played it before 6.1 & still am & frankly I truly hardly feel any slight of the changes,

Incredible, never thought people would get triggered/ bothered whenever someone objects otherwise & ultimately assume the worst out of any scenario or any individual. What the hell ever happened with differentiated opinions?

Anyway, I am well acquainted with the job; I just truly don’t care what “numbers/meta” delivers which is a mentality aspect that is so enforced within the hardcore players that deems it otherwise (if anything it’s far ridiculous). At the end of the day it’s all about how better you adapt & perform your job regardless of whoever’s outdpsing & frankly not every gives a fly; just follow mechanics & enjoy your job.

It really is such an entertainment to see a variety of repetitive posts about SAM changes dissatisfaction & no matter what logic you throw out it’s already done, get over it, play it or don’t bother & move on (unless your state of mind is that of a committed hardcore then you do you, just remember you’ve enslaved yourself into feeling limited & are in limbo).

[SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep]

"I'll repeat myself that we really did all these adjustments for the sake of player's enjoyment here so I'll be thankful if you all can understand this."

Respectfully, I disagree.

Respectfully, I disagree.

He just didn't clarify "which" "players' enjoyment" is he adjusting it for. Let me explain.



Kaiten is really restrictive in dumbing the game down enough for those casuals who log off after 1 month after content patch. Or for the other idiot in this thread who don't have the mental capacity for anything more than pacman.

For the sake of players' enjoyment?

The job is fucked less than 6 months into the expansion. GTFO of here.

[YukiB]

no matter what logic you throw out it’s already done, get over it, play it or don’t bother & move on

I did. My sub ran out yesterday.

That's not going to stop me from advocating for positive change in the game.

[WorldPeacElbow]

…I have a Lv.90 SAM & played it before 6.1 & still am & frankly I truly hardly feel any slight of the changes,

Incredible, never thought people would get triggered/ bothered whenever someone objects otherwise & ultimately assume the worst out of any scenario or any individual. What the hell ever happened with differentiated opinions?

Anyway, I am well acquainted with the job; I just truly don’t care what “numbers/meta” delivers which is a mentality aspect that is so enforced within the hardcore players that deems it otherwise (if anything it’s far ridiculous). At the end of the day it’s all about how better you adapt & perform your job regardless of whoever’s outdpsing & frankly not every gives a fly; just follow mechanics & enjoy your job.

It really is such an entertainment to see a variety of repetitive posts about SAM changes dissatisfaction & no matter what logic you throw out it’s already done, get over it, play it or don’t bother & move on (unless your state of mind is that of a committed hardcore then you do you, just remember you’ve enslaved yourself into feeling limited & are in limbo).

Are you not getting enough attention at home? lol who are you trying to convince? Nobody agrees with you. RATIO

[Callidor]

I actually support SAM changes,

Great. That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.

Nothing wrong with it,

I disagree, and obviously so do many, many others.

Made the job easier to navigate through,

No argument here. The job is now much easier to play.

It’s only stubborn fools that are reluctant for change & just throws tantrums at it.

Well that's just ridiculous. You're entitled to your opinion, and you have just as much right as anyone to express it on these forums. But so does everyone else! Clearly an overwhelming majority of people who play the class feel these changes are wrongheaded. You can say you disagree with the majority and that the majority is wrong, but don't claim to speak for the majority when it's obvious you do not. That's just silly.

It already happened!

...Yes. Obviously. We're objecting to a thing that happened. Why would we be posting about a thing that hasn't happened?

Now move on or still flow over the forums with more disappointments

Option 2, please.

[AluneTempest]

im new on the endgame content like savage/ultimate and now i am scared of try to learn in deep a job and SE simply destroy in one patch.
DRG now is my fav melee job and SE say they have plans for DRG on the patch 6.2, just dont want to see another fun job get destroyed because SE made changes (that NOBOBY asked for).

[Vencio]

Never have I claimed to speak on behalf of a majority except for myself,

What in the world made you think otherwise?

Not here to convince anyone either, it’s mindless how overflooding these SAM posts dissatisfactions keeps appearing & appearing

Deal is done, can’t revert something that just came to be.

You unsub because of it your issue,

[Alex1337]

I actually support SAM changes,

Nothing wrong with it,

Made the job easier to navigate through,

It’s only stubborn fools that are reluctant for change & just throws tantrums at it.

It already happened! Now move on or still flow over the forums with more disappointments

Players like this is why I think jobs should have a hard mode toggle for those of us who want more complexity in our job.

If not troll than you can’t knock them for being happy about the change, whatever, but the job is now too slow and it was already slow for most people.

Hard mode toggle pre 6.08 Sam more risk more reward more optimization, normal mode is just 6.1 Sam if you’re into that.

[Ceridwen]

Never have I claimed to speak on behalf of a majority except for myself,

What in the world made you think otherwise?

Not here to convince anyone either, it’s mindless how overflooding these SAM posts dissatisfactions keeps appearing & appearing

Deal is done, can’t revert something that just came to be.

You unsub because of it your issue,

Then why did they specifically ask for feedback on this particular change, the removal of Kaiten? They're getting what they requested. People who never come to this forum came because they deeply loathe this update. I've told people if they don't like it, go tell the developers on the official forum, because that's what they ASKED us to do. As evidence of how much it matters to them, some are unsubbing. Some just aren't playing, or are trying to find another class they like as much as they liked the former Samurai.

It's not mindless, except to you. Since you don't care, why would you waste your no doubt precious time whining about those who actually DO care? If the complaints fade, then they can assume we're adjusting. So the complaints aren't fading. If the sight of complaints troubles your sensibilities so, I'd suggest *not reading them.*