What is going on with Square Enix and the 14 team?

[Skyborne]

The problem with the original contest is that players voted for it. It was all based on art style when the entries were whittled down, and surprise the generic anime cuts got picked because people who play the Japanese styled MMO liked that art the most.

SE definitely picked the ones that were the most workable, sure, but there was no control over making sure the winners weren't too similar.

Don't mind me, I am still eternally malding that I was waiting for this hair to make it into the game only for it to be pointed out to me that it did, but Squeenix completely butchered it, removing the bell hairties and all the bangs except one. Why. My mind was just one long balloon-deflating noise in that moment. Why? The only longer hairstyles for males all have gigantic five-heads.... and the only decent ponytail with bangs is locked to male ras.

[LisSquid]

Don't remind me that we got cheated out of the best hairstyle.

[Rokke]

yeah, don’t think that’s a coinkydink

So lets go down the list here

First, those twitter people are demanding SE make hairstyles we don't like unisex (even when they were always unisex to start with) and this is a recent thing that somehow coincides with the unisexing of certain clothing (despite unisex contest winners first being implemented back in HW) and that SE should have pulled more runner ups from the male side of the contest but male entries are also way too feminine/unisex ...so ...we'd still be mad at the end of the day?

The problem with the original contest is that players voted for it. It was all based on art style when the entries were whittled down, and surprise the generic anime cuts got picked because people who play the Japanese styled MMO liked that art the most.

everyone want to point at everyone/everything but fellow forum users for the contest results lol

[LisSquid]

everyone want to point at everyone/everything but fellow forum users for the contest results lol

To be fair, I don't think most people were playing or even remember the contest. A lot of people think these hairstyles are brand new. Which isn't surprising as it has taken literal years to see them rolled out.

Can't wait to see the winners of the weapon design contest in 2025!!!

[KizuyaKatogami]

So lets go down the list here

First, those twitter people are demanding SE make hairstyles we don't like unisex (even when they were always unisex to start with) and this is a recent thing that somehow coincides with the unisexing of certain clothing (despite unisex contest winners first being implemented back in HW) and that SE should have pulled more runner ups from the male side of the contest but male entries are also way too feminine/unisex ...so ...we'd still be mad at the end of the day?



everyone want to point at everyone/everything but fellow forum users for the contest results lol

The point is, the ones they choose don’t really follow the standard masculine/feminine ones. They’re typically horrible altered from their original design(like the one posted above). What SE should do is make polls more known to the playerbase. I don’t think i’ve seen in the 4/5 years i’ve been playing the option to take part in a poll.

[Heavenchild]

I really loved EW's story very much. :3

In general I think, that they maybe try to do too much in too less time. So they are working hard for quantity but have less time for quality.
And it feels like their focus is not optimal, because they do much for new players, but the longtime players get not much during the last times.
But aren't we the people they should think of to support and make a nice game? : )
Why stuff like new Gold Saucer thingis, Deep Dungeon or Island Sanctuary gets pushed back so much? And things for new players or a really small amount of players gets priority? (ARR rework, Ultimate)
Yes I love that they do this things for us. But..., many people I know would wish a different order to release things.
And that they would spent more for making glamour system nice. This is a problem for suuuch a long time.

All in all it's a good game and I really love it. But of course it has it's issues. Maybe people complain a lil bit too much about very personal opinions or feelings.
I think all members of the dev team are working really hard to make good stuff for us. They are also just humans. We should never forget that.

[Rokke]

The point is, the ones they choose don’t really follow the standard masculine/feminine ones. They’re typically horrible altered from their original design(like the one posted above). What SE should do is make polls more known to the playerbase. I don’t think i’ve seen in the 4/5 years i’ve been playing the option to take part in a poll.

Aren't jingle bells and bangs feminine features ?

I agree that it'd be nice to have more interaction involving feedback tho.

[Heavenchild]

Don't mind me, I am still eternally malding that I was waiting for this hair to make it into the game only for it to be pointed out to me that it did, but Squeenix completely butchered it, removing the bell hairties and all the bangs except one. Why. My mind was just one long balloon-deflating noise in that moment. Why? The only longer hairstyles for males all have gigantic five-heads.... and the only decent ponytail with bangs is locked to male ras.

That looks really nice. Is it what became lex? The original would have been really cool. :3

[Lauront]

Yoshi P has spent so much time lately asking for players to give "calm" feedback and states that he personally shields his devs from feedback and absorb the blunt of the criticism.

He should be clearer about what is prompting it, tbh. If some guy in Japan mailed them knives, or whatever, it has diddly squat to do with feedback on the forum (and elsewhere), which is how it tends to be misconstrued by some. Otherwise it just gives the impression that he's being deliberately vague and could be talking about anything. I'm not holding off on criticism because of a vague "pwease stop being nasty" which gets contorted into some weird gatekeeping of how a complaint or criticism needs to be phrased. We can all recognise ones that go a bit overboard, but given how flippant he's been in recent times, I can't say I blame e.g. healers for getting a bit less patient when it comes to delivering constructive feedback if it's just going to get dismissed. At this point he needs to give examples of what he means.

[Skiros]

He should be clearer about what is prompting it, tbh. If some guy in Japan mailed them knives, or whatever, it has diddly squat to do with feedback on the forum (and elsewhere), which is how it tends to be misconstrued by some. Otherwise it just gives the impression that he's being deliberately vague and could be talking about anything. I'm not holding off on criticism because of a vague "pwease stop being nasty" which gets contorted into some weird gatekeeping of how a complaint or criticism needs to be phrased. We can all recognise ones that go a bit overboard, but given how flippant he's been in recent times, I can't say I blame e.g. healers for getting a bit less patient when it comes to delivering constructive feedback if it's just going to get dismissed. At this point he needs to give examples of what he means.

Honestly like what someone else said in the thread, it's more than likely just an excuse to ignore certain criticisms.