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    EagleDynamics's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vav2021 View Post
    Here's the scenario I've got going on. I'm another one of those wow refugees that came here sometime last year after Blizzard showed their true colors. I like to roleplay on my fantasy characters. Nothing extreme, no ERP, but light stuff, like character development. When I came over, I found myself amazed with all the people and the gameplay itself. But, chat was eerily silent for all the people around me. I haven't payed it much attention, but earlier today I saw people talking in /say, and I half jokingly made a remark. Well, this is what went down.

    Are the rules really this extreme where people are afraid to make the social game... well... social? and if so, what in particular is causing this?
    all i know is if you start talking about someones dps being poor because thats how you see it on your dps meter youre probably going to be talking to a gm soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleDynamics View Post
    all i know is if you start talking about someones dps being poor because thats how you see it on your dps meter youre probably going to be talking to a gm soon.
    As that implies 3rd party software usage. And such software is usualy not allowed (some devs do allow it to some degree, but are still vague so they can always act on issues in any way they like - some information after all is too much like cheating).

    Yes, within private raiding parties this can be used as an analytics tool, and on that maybe allowed for this purpose (i dont know if it is). But in public games this is definitely something you should not want. Blaming someone else is on that just toxic behaviour. Although i can imagine that if a player wants to learn from someone that uses such stats, it might actualy help them. But then again, such player is unlikely to get insulted and instead just receives feedback that he wants.

    And in private raiding parties in which dps on that scale matters, they most likely already use voice chat (therefor its unlikely they get reported based on chat), and usualy already play on the hardest difficulty where random parties are a bad idea. Its unlikely to cause an issue there.

    If they are using text chat, that party is already making a major mistake. I think this is the main reason why such statements are considered a problem.

    I think its kept vague for a good reason, and thats simply that you only want to act on excessive cases. And in this game profanity is actualy less of a problem compared to spoilers. Spoilers can realy destroy certain aspects of a story, yet profanity can at most just be anoying (not to be confused with insulting which is something else!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    As that implies 3rd party software usage. And such software is usualy not allowed (some devs do allow it to some degree, but are still vague so they can always act on issues in any way they like - some information after all is too much like cheating).

    Yes, within private raiding parties this can be used as an analytics tool, and on that maybe allowed for this purpose (i dont know if it is). But in public games this is definitely something you should not want. Blaming someone else is on that just toxic behaviour. Although i can imagine that if a player wants to learn from someone that uses such stats, it might actualy help them. But then again, such player is unlikely to get insulted and instead just receives feedback that he wants.

    And in private raiding parties in which dps on that scale matters, they most likely already use voice chat (therefor its unlikely they get reported based on chat), and usualy already play on the hardest difficulty where random parties are a bad idea. Its unlikely to cause an issue there.

    If they are using text chat, that party is already making a major mistake. I think this is the main reason why such statements are considered a problem.

    I think its kept vague for a good reason, and thats simply that you only want to act on excessive cases. And in this game profanity is actualy less of a problem compared to spoilers. Spoilers can realy destroy certain aspects of a story, yet profanity can at most just be anoying (not to be confused with insulting which is something else!).
    yes that makes sense. people in a hardcore static raiding fc who all know each other wouldn't narc on a member for using a dps meter. if it helps them out then more power to them.
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