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  1. #331
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They should remove the sub then and make the game buy to play. There is no real purpose in it. It would be more consumer friendly.
    sure, if you want Square Enix to add MTX into the game itself as the primary source of income, instead of just having a cash shop that has no connection to the game itself and a subscription based service.

    It's almost like you've never seen how bad MTX is in MMOs that are buy to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    sure, if you want Square Enix to add MTX into the game itself as the primary source of income, instead of just having a cash shop that has no connection to the game itself and a subscription based service.

    It's almost like you've never seen how bad MTX is in MMOs that are buy to play.
    Don't like it don't buy it.
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  3. #333
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Don't like it don't buy it.
    i hope you understand the irony when i tell you the same thing.

    If you don't like having to buy a sub, then don't. go play something else and quit trying to ruin the game for everyone else.
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  4. #334
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    i hope you understand the irony when i tell you the same thing.

    If you don't like having to buy a sub, then don't. go play something else and quit trying to ruin the game for everyone else.
    Exactly how is anyone trying to ruin the game? Just because some people are satisfied with no lasting content, no quality content, little to no rewards to work towards, etc. in the game? There is nothing there to ruin in the first place, since nothing is being released.
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  5. #335
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    No it doesn't. Just because the game doesn't give the kind of content YOU want doesn't mean there's no content. You don't need to log in every single day, take breaks, go play something else, but at the end of the day other MMO's I play go a year or more with ZERO content. This game comes out with a major patch every 4 months. The problem is you, not the game.
    You keep insisting this yet I've already listed what the current patch has to offer and that I, specifically, have already done everything. For the sake of review, we have:

    MSQ
    Endsinger
    Unreal
    Agiaga
    Role Quests
    Crafting
    PvP

    Of those six things listed, I have completed every single one except PvP over just a two week span. And I'm only not done with PvP because I didn't initially bother with it but have since given it a whirl. I didn't rush through the content. None of it has any staying power except PvP as it's all primarily one and done. Endsinger's only longevity comes from if you care to farm her mount. Everything else is weekly restricted and/or over within an hour or two. So what exactly is this content I don't want to do? 6.15 isn't offering a bevy of longevity either. Like I said previously, it's several one and done quest chains. I have no doubt some will be cool, especially hildibrand, but they're over within the hour.

    Before you mention jobs previous things like jobs. I have nearly every job leveled to 90. I've only held back on some so I have something to level when Deep Dungeon drops. I have every Crafter and Gather max and fully pentamelded. With the new gear to boot. I've done the role quests. I've done a good portion of the side quests. I have both Hydaelyn and Zodiark's mounts. In fact, I spammed the later nearly 100 times. I've BiS all my tanks, DRG, SMN and am only missing the weapon on RPR and RDM. And all this while taking that break to play other games. So no, I'm not 24/7-ing FFXIV. Nor am I opting not to do content that isn't available. Outside DRU, which I'm currently progging, there isn't anything to do unless you consider grinding 10,000 FATEs for the achievement good content.

    And it isn't like I'm expecting something new to do daily. I'd be fine with some meaningful grinds to keep me occupied. How about the relic? Why are we waiting an entire year for one of the few pieces of longevity content to be released? If it came out earlier, that would help satiate a lot of players. I'll go one better and say let the damn thing equal the Savage weapons. Make the steps worthwhile to do. "The raiders will complain!" Very few give a damn at this point. I cleared P4S week two and couldn't give a hoot if week 400, the relic matches my weapon. Just make it something decent and fun to do and not a free poetic dump.
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  6. #336
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    You keep insisting this yet I've already listed what the current patch has to offer and that I, specifically, have already done everything. For the sake of review, we have:

    MSQ
    Endsinger
    Unreal
    Agiaga
    Role Quests
    Crafting
    PvP

    Of those six things listed, I have completed every single one except PvP over just a two week span. And I'm only not done with PvP because I didn't initially bother with it but have since given it a whirl. I didn't rush through the content. None of it has any staying power except PvP as it's all primarily one and done. Endsinger's only longevity comes from if you care to farm her mount. Everything else is weekly restricted and/or over within an hour or two. So what exactly is this content I don't want to do? 6.15 isn't offering a bevy of longevity either. Like I said previously, it's several one and done quest chains. I have no doubt some will be cool, especially hildibrand, but they're over within the hour.

    Before you mention jobs previous things like jobs. I have nearly every job leveled to 90. I've only held back on some so I have something to level when Deep Dungeon drops. I have every Crafter and Gather max and fully pentamelded. With the new gear to boot. I've done the role quests. I've done a good portion of the side quests. I have both Hydaelyn and Zodiark's mounts. In fact, I spammed the later nearly 100 times. I've BiS all my tanks, DRG, SMN and am only missing the weapon on RPR and RDM. And all this while taking that break to play other games. So no, I'm not 24/7-ing FFXIV. Nor am I opting not to do content that isn't available. Outside DRU, which I'm currently progging, there isn't anything to do unless you consider grinding 10,000 FATEs for the achievement good content.

    And it isn't like I'm expecting something new to do daily. I'd be fine with some meaningful grinds to keep me occupied. How about the relic? Why are we waiting an entire year for one of the few pieces of longevity content to be released? If it came out earlier, that would help satiate a lot of players. I'll go one better and say let the damn thing equal the Savage weapons. Make the steps worthwhile to do. "The raiders will complain!" Very few give a damn at this point. I cleared P4S week two and couldn't give a hoot if week 400, the relic matches my weapon. Just make it something decent and fun to do and not a free poetic dump.
    It sounds like you should take a break from the game, in my honest opinion.
    Relic always come up on late patch 6.25, go live your life pal.
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  7. #337
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Exactly how is anyone trying to ruin the game? Just because some people are satisfied with no lasting content, no quality content, little to no rewards to work towards, etc. in the game? There is nothing there to ruin in the first place, since nothing is being released.
    *points to the hundreds of achievements and titles and other items locked behind them*
    Nothing to work towards...right.
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  8. #338
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    *points to the hundreds of achievements and titles and other items locked behind them*
    Nothing to work towards...right.
    Wait?! You are telling me I can do 10,000 dungeons and get 20 achievement points. Heck yeah! Take my money now SE!
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  9. #339
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Exactly how is anyone trying to ruin the game? Just because some people are satisfied with no lasting content, no quality content, little to no rewards to work towards, etc. in the game? There is nothing there to ruin in the first place, since nothing is being released.
    we have plenty of content. they just don't make content that forces you to participate for the entire 4 months between patches. so sorry that, that doesn't adhere to your standards of what an MMO should do, but the majority of players are fine with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Ashford View Post
    we have plenty of content. they just don't make content that forces you to participate for the entire 4 months between patches. so sorry that, that doesn't adhere to your standards of what an MMO should do, but the majority of players are fine with it.
    Clearly the standards for an MMO, to many in the FFXIV community, is nothing.
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