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  1. #2911
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    Aluja89's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I dont think they made a Mistake with the Au'ra. Its unfortunate we didnt get cool Bi-Pedal Dragon People...but the Au'Ra as they are now are pretty cool...just..yeah. That early concept art man....
    But besides that, YES, NO MIQO'TE 2.0
    Adamantine is talking about the females being small cute girls in comparison to their male counterpart.

    Honestly though, they should make everyone happy, 2 feline faces, 2 humanlike faces.
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  2. #2912
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    Nyte Kitsune
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    wow.. this thread is still going? lol.. Still approve of the idea of adding female Hrothgar, not that I would play one, but they did give us male Viera so only fair that they should add female Hrothgar.. just sayin'
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    "Nose to the wind, I go."

  3. #2913
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    Caur Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I dont think they made a Mistake with the Au'ra. Its unfortunate we didnt get cool Bi-Pedal Dragon People...but the Au'Ra as they are now are pretty cool...just..yeah. That early concept art man....
    But besides that, YES, NO MIQO'TE 2.0
    Fem Au Ra are actually quite good. Easily amongst the best designed races in 14. Could be a little taller, but it's not a big deal.
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  4. #2914
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    SherlottaEryut's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Adamantine is talking about the females being small cute girls in comparison to their male counterpart.

    Honestly though, they should make everyone happy, 2 feline faces, 2 humanlike faces.
    I don't see why the developers should cater to those who want a Miqo'te 2.0 - If people want to play a human faced cat then it's already in game.

    The only people within the community who haven't been catered to in terms of characters are those who wish to play a beast-like female character, and they should have all the face options available for them to choose, as opposed to narrowing down their choices by adding human faces.
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    Square Enix have extorted money from Viera and Hrothgar's limitations, but from the outside looking in it seems barely any of that money is invested back into the limited races. How much money have they made from players
    fantasia'ing to and from the limited races? We want more race-exclusive hair.
    We want them improved, and we want it done within a reasonable time.

  5. #2915
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Adamantine is talking about the females being small cute girls in comparison to their male counterpart.

    Honestly though, they should make everyone happy, 2 feline faces, 2 humanlike faces.
    1 of each 'type' would be the most fair imo

    Face 1 - the feral mom


    Face 2 - the cutesy housecat


    Face 3 - an actual Ronso


    Face 4 - the not-human waifu


    Granted, considering such diversity in face structure is one of, if not the most prominent issue with male Hrothgars, this is highly unlikely, but hey, one can dream /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  6. #2916
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I can't see anyone who are saying Female Hrothgar shouldn't be made
    I thought both male viera and female hrothgar should have been made, but put on hold. I didn't think the genderlock outweighed the issue of the races (female viera/male hrothgar) being in the state they were in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    What is it with people being so blatantly hateful this past week or so. Best mmo community, definitely /s
    I think people are being a lot more open with their opinions on here lately, because the mods seem to be completely absent.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It shows who should never be grouped with or talked to. I've already put them on ignore for that blatant bigotry. I find it so stupid that in a game that has a story going into why bigotry and bigots are bad, we have actual bigots playing. You'd think they'd have been so insulted for being called out by the story that they would have quit.
    People have always held.. certain opinions in this community. GM enforcement has simply scared people silent. People were always more open in private (discord).

    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Like, I know I've seen some dumb stereotypical [...] about every race. Potatoes this, Giraffes that. But none come as malicious as people addressed Hrothgar. I've seen malice thrown at Roegadyn as well, which is inexcusable. But since launch, Hrothgar have been treated like actual garbage. This community really needs to stop congratulating itself on being accepting, because even among the more pleasant people there are those who give us the stink-eye just for existing.
    I have been put down for playing au ra, or miqo'te (which I play the most). Like my opinions matter less on here as well, several times in this thread actually.

    I will say there does seem to be a pretty aggressive stigma over "furry" races. I've been seeing it a lot lately when people talk about WoW for example. Like in regards to the new dragon humanoid race - which I think are pretty cool actually. What's the alternative? 20 different variations of humans? I don't really see an issue with it personally, I don't really think about, or care what "furries" do in their free time, as long as they aren't hurting anyone else.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 05-01-2022 at 05:33 AM.
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  7. #2917
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I for One...wouldn't mind the Hunchback. Its a Common Beastman thing because their physiology is different then the average Human/Humanoid. (Of course this is also an artistic choice) If they had a Quadraped run like the Charr and..i THINK Worgan (I swear I saw it) then the Hunch makes more sense cause their spin would be curved and allow it.
    But hey, if the Females do fit this "Queen" Motiff, then I guess it would be better if they stood up straight.

    The Hair, I hope they get some Braids like the Male Viera, and a Bald option. I want a Badass Amazon Dammit.
    Also FemRoe body. If people are gonna bring up how they look in FFX, then you know FemRoe body is obvious. Or at least they should be Tall....hmm....taller Females then Males...that might be interesting.
    This next year and a half is killing me...
    I don't mind a little bit of hunchback, I also don't want them to look like they're about to tip over tho lol.
    Women also have breasts which I think more easily will begin to look strange when compressed it's actually an issue even on RPR.
    If you look at your character in the idle combat pose you can see that there's weird compression happening turning the breasts into sharp torpedos ( it's worse with some gear than others but it's still consistent ).
    And it's because RPR has a hunched back.
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  8. #2918
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    Aluja89's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut View Post
    I don't see why the developers should cater to those who want a Miqo'te 2.0 - If people want to play a human faced cat then it's already in game.

    The only people within the community who haven't been catered to in terms of characters are those who wish to play a beast-like female character, and they should have all the face options available for them to choose, as opposed to narrowing down their choices by adding human faces.
    Races are options and they're for everyone, no one is being catered.

    Also, no dig. But you're playing a Viera, a human female with animal ears.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    1 of each 'type' would be the most fair imo

    Face 1 - the feral mom


    Face 2 - the cutesy housecat


    Face 3 - an actual Ronso


    Face 4 - the not-human waifu


    Granted, considering such diversity in face structure is one of, if not the most prominent issue with male Hrothgars, this is highly unlikely, but hey, one can dream /shrug
    I believe they're going to want to avoid multiple headshapes, so the feline faces would just be slightly protruded.
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  9. #2919
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I will say there does seem to be a pretty aggressive stigma over "furry" races. I've been seeing it a lot lately when people talk about WoW for example. Like in regards to the new dragon humanoid race - which I think are pretty cool actually. What's the alternative? 20 different variations of humans? I don't really see an issue with it personally, I don't really think about, or care what "furries" do in their free time, as long as they aren't hurting anyone else.
    "omg people like the furry race, they're furries, they're icky and gross and weird degenerates that make the internet a horrible place"
    -- A squid-faced Highlander Hyur with nothing better to do than to bother people

    Meanwhile most of my interactions with Hrothgar have been about either comparing glamours, trying to out-cute eachother, engage in Bozja lore, talk about Radovan\Runar\Bajsaljen\Magnus or make fun of how macho they look.

    Are there degenerates? ...do Au Ra have horns? Yes of course there are. Just as much as there are degenerate Elezen, degenerate Roegady, degenerate Miqo'te. Degenerates exist everywhere. It's not because furries are into your race that it's suddenly gonna go downhill.

    Sincerely: a furry.
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  10. #2920
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Races are options and they're for everyone, no one is being catered.
    Ehhh, debatable. Viera literally wouldn't exist if they hadn't catered to their fans. If 'catering' to certain demographics when creating playable races didn't matter, we'd all be playing Midlanders.

    Playable races in games are tailored for people who like different things. Some like playing as small and cutesy characters, others like big and bulky, some like being fantasy races like orcs and elves, others just like being an average human, and some like playing something that isn't even humanoid, and therein lies the conflict if whether SE will listen to the admittedly smaller group of people that wants to play a female beastial character, or comfort to the majority that prefers sexy human-not-human aesthetics who may play them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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