In regards to something involving the main cast

[Theodric]

Don't forget that the "funeral" wasn't done for disposed creations, it was meant for promising experiments acidentally killed for no fault of their own, like in that specific case where they "mourned" a group of beings killed by a failed, over-agressive species, one that was to be put down with no fanfarre at all.
Rather than mourning the lives lost, it's more like they were bothered by their efforts spent being wasted

I think that's rather disingenuous framing given the numerous side quests showing that many of the Ancients throughout Elpis cared for their creations. Even in cases where Ancients believed the player character was little more than a familiar there's multiple examples of Ancients expressing concern about the player character's aether and even offering to fortify it.

[Lauront]

Rather than mourning the lives lost, it's more like they were bothered by their efforts spent being wasted

That was a beautiful service. I like to think it brought some joy to their departed souls, much as one feels when receiving a thoughtful gift.

Yeah, sure.

[EaraGrace]

We’re cutting out important dialogue again I see.

Sokles: This is them─the okyupetes which fell victim to the lykaones.

Maira: They were still being evaluated, yes? The poor things, they barely had a chance to fulfill their design...

Alkaios: Their flesh and bones will return to the land. We will ensure that their existence was not in vain.

Charmion: Seeing life taken mid-purpose can be distressing. Have you witnessed such events before, Forename?

Tell me: how do you express yourself at these times?

It’s that the lives were “mid-purpose” that upsets them, not the fact they were gone. If they died because they were failures, or died of natural causes no one would care. Except for Hermes.

[KizuyaKatogami]

If they died because they were failures, or died of natural causes no one would care.

You can’t say this though because there are specific things that refute this. From some of the people being concerned about our well-being as a familiar to the way a lot of them speak about creations in their dialogue. It seems like a lot of people in here are reading things with their ancient hate glasses on. Smell the roses people.

[EaraGrace]

You can’t say this though because there are specific things that refute this. From some of the people being concerned about our well-being as a familiar to the way a lot of them speak about creations in their dialogue. It seems like a lot of people in here are reading things with their ancient hate glasses on. Smell the roses people.

Oh man, I’ll should go tell that researcher who said if we die it’s ok so long as we don’t fuck up his creation that he actually does care about us!

And they quite literally say that in that quest dialogue I quoted. You’re arguing that it’s not true with the dialogue showing it is right above part you quoted!

[Jandor]

Some quests show the Ancients is a good caring light, and some show them in a bad uncaring light.

I don't know what the takeaway was meant to be, but I got the impression that they're basically just the Sundered but with better magic and longer lives, which makes perfect sense because that's exactly what they are.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Oh man, I’ll should go tell that researcher who said if we die it’s ok so long as we don’t fuck up his creation that he actually does care about us!

And they quite literally say that in that quest dialogue I quoted. You’re arguing that it’s not true with the dialogue showing it is right above part you quoted!

One person out of how many? Please lol. The bias is immeasurable here.

[EaraGrace]

One person out of how many? Please lol. The bias is immeasurable here.

Smash cut to Hyth talking about how returning to the star after fulfilling one’s duty is “always beautiful” and how they seem aghast that Meteion uses the word die. Or the researchers who repeatedly asked Venat when she’s going to return. But sure I’m biased against them.

Truthfully, I think you fundamentally don’t understand the Ancients and their thinking.

Look I don’t think they have to be cruel or evil to believe that one’s purpose is all that matters, and that it’s awesome that people achieve that. My issue however, is that does give rise to certain problems.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Smash cut to Hyth talking about how returning to the star after fulfilling one’s duty is “always beautiful” and how they seem aghast that Meteion uses the word die. Or the researchers who repeatedly asked Venat when she’s going to return. But sure I’m biased against them.

Truthfully, I think you fundamentally don’t understand the Ancients and their thinking.

Look I don’t think they have to be cruel or evil to believe that one’s purpose is all that matters, and that it’s awesome that people achieve that. My issue however, is that does give rise to certain problems.

Oh i don’t understand but you do right? In your various posts trying to dig deep and bash them for the same things the sundered do but far worse. What does returning to the star being seen as beautiful have to do with their view on creations? You’re literally trying to argue they had no funeral rites when it’s explicitly stated with supporting dialogue that they did, and the only thing the WoL contributed was the flowers. You and others are specifically ignoring this proof when given and still trying to dig into every nook and cranny looking for something to prove that they’re “wrong.” In the end though, either conclusion doesn’t matter in the long run because i don’t see the ancients tearing apart and spilling blood for sport and entertainment for rich folk. We can see that happening in Uldah though, and i don’t see anyone there offering prayer.

[Slatersev]

Some quests show the Ancients is a good caring light, and some show them in a bad uncaring light.

I don't know what the takeaway was meant to be, but I got the impression that they're basically just the Sundered but with better magic and longer lives, which makes perfect sense because that's exactly what they are.

Yeah, which has always been my point. There inherently stronger in magic but that's it. In every other way there just like the Sundered. There are people in Elpis who really are very kind, there are people there bordering on cruel. It literally varies by side quest.