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  1. #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    If every job could wear the same gear we'd likely only get one set per raid
    Its not about the same "gear" as in actual equippable items. Its just about being able to use it purely as glam on other jobs but every role will still need to have separate sets of gear to use as actual gear with item level and stats. It doesn't really change their workflow, it just gives players more freedom.
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  2. 04-29-2022 10:33 PM

  3. #302
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    Cithaerias_pyropina's Avatar
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    Qynden Peltier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    If every job could wear the same gear we'd likely only get one set per raid
    That's sometimes already the case. Take Alzadaal's Legacy's Darbar sets for example. There are only 3 distinct models for 19 jobs and 5 roles. Then you have Asphodelos's with 4 models for 19 jobs and 5 roles.

    They just add or remove cloaks and belts and palette swap and call it a day like with the Astronomy tome armor. The Casting and Scouting astronomy tops are the same thing just one is red and the other is black. The Healing astronomy top is the same as the Casting and Scouting just with an added piece of cloth in the front and turned white.
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  4. #303
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    Clover_Blake's Avatar
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    Clover Blake
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    I liked the idea someone mentioned of unlocking the glamours so long as you have the class leveled. It'd make me want to level other classes in a single character, so it sounded fun to me.

    Not like I'll die if we never get this restriction listed, but if we do, more power to us!
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  5. #304
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    Fenix Starfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaws View Post
    That doesn't really apply to a game like FFXIV where glam is one of the major parts of the game that the vast majority of the players actually do care about (some more than others, for sure). "Glam is the true end-game" didn't come out of thin air.

    Also, caring about one thing doesn't automatically mean that you don't care about the other. Sure there are players like that but they're probably not that many. Glam is something that adds to the gameplay for a lot of people because they like their characters looking good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    Mind elaborating on what you mean here by gameplay ? Are things like housing, crafting/gathering, glamour, etc not gameplay ? I'd say they're valuable parts of the game that all have huge amounts of players dedicating their time to.

    Not just that, but as Flaws said, do we have to trade cosmetics for "gameplay" and vice-versa ? I don't think what I and many others in this thread suggest is something so insanely hard to implement that we have to sacrifice the next 2 raid tiers for it lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    In which case it shouldn't bother players more concerned with gameplay because whether or not they can glamour xyz is irrelevant to them. Essentially, you're either indifferent to the concept, or you benefit from it, which is more than enough justification to implement that. It's also not something that would be particularly hard to do. It's impossible to say for sure without seeing first hand, but it's not something that requires new assets, for example, which immediately makes it far more easy to accomplish by that nature alone.
    Can't really come up with a response for any of these, so I'll just say that it's really up to Square if they want to release restrictions on glamour or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by iluke77 View Post
    then youre not at endgame in ffxiv ..

    endgame in ffiv is glamour !!
    I am though. See my simple, awesome glamour? XD I agree glamour is endgame, but I'm almost certain that Square is not of the same mind.
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  6. #305
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    I'd love this change. Hell, I want this change so much I'd take it over them fixing healers... okay maybe not that much, but I would seriously love a change like this due to the amount of variety it would allow for.

    Also, go full FFXI, no artifact gear restriction or anything. If you could wear it on one class you can wear it on any, provided the requirements were reached with another class. Or just make it a flat level requirement.
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  7. #306
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    Sid Lostvayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post
    I'd love this change. Hell, I want this change so much I'd take it over them fixing healers... okay maybe not that much, but I would seriously love a change like this due to the amount of variety it would allow for.

    Also, go full FFXI, no artifact gear restriction or anything. If you could wear it on one class you can wear it on any, provided the requirements were reached with another class. Or just make it a flat level requirement.
    Honestly, that's the only way I imagine they would implement it and I'm perfectly fine with it. If you want to glam a level 90 maiming piece, you'd need either a DRG or a RPR at 90. That's a great way to make people level extra jobs imo.
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  8. #307
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post
    I'd love this change. Hell, I want this change so much I'd take it over them fixing healers... okay maybe not that much, but I would seriously love a change like this due to the amount of variety it would allow for.

    Also, go full FFXI, no artifact gear restriction or anything. If you could wear it on one class you can wear it on any, provided the requirements were reached with another class. Or just make it a flat level requirement.
    I know most would be against unlocking artifact gear and understandably so, but I personally am not. I'd be fine with it either way.
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    Last edited by Flaws; 04-30-2022 at 09:12 PM.

  9. #308
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    Sid Lostvayne
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    Sadly I don't imagine them leaving combat jobs AF restrictions but removing the ones on crafter/gatherers.
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  10. #309
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    NyteKitsune's Avatar
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    Nyte Kitsune
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Honestly My most used Glamour item is the PvP Fox Mask (Healer and DPS Caster), Would love to see the Job restriction lifted from items in the glamour chest so I could use the mask on all my roles, not just casters as its my trademark piece, but limed to casters
    Whether SE actually reads this thread is another matter and actually makes the change is entirely up to them, but would make us happy.
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    "Nose to the wind, I go."

  11. #310
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Flaws View Post
    I know most would be against unlocking artifact gear and understandably so, but I personally am not. I'd be fine with it either way.
    I said this before, but it really shouldn't matter. If we need to leave artifact gear restricted, then that's not a problem for me because it's a very tiny amount of gear, but it really doesn't need to be a restriction regardless. If you don't want to glamour artifact gear then just don't. No one will hold you at gunpoint and force you to wear dragoon's artifact gear on paladin. Moreover, there are less prominent aspects of artifact gear that someone might want. Maybe someone wants the Dancer's hair ribbon but not the entire set, or the asymmetrical ARR bard pants. If it bothers you that someone else can wear something in a video game, I think you need to reevaluate your priorities.
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