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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theresa View Post
    I'm visiting this forum today and I used to be a regular in 2015/2014. It's depressing how toxic it is right now. The problem isn't criticism, is the lack of respect and willingness to have a decent discussion.
    You can say that about most things nowadays. 2014-2015 were better times in general, at least the way I see it.
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  2. #92
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MellowMink View Post
    It does feel like some (again, some, not most) newer thread comments have gotten more toxic than usual lately, whether that includes comments that involve passive-aggressive remarks, or even some cases of outright bigotry within certain large threads. Regardless, there’s a report feature, and I really hope that the forum moderators more actively address comments that clearly violate the terms of use with regards to its pretty straightforward notes about harassment. People shouldn’t feel uncomfortable on the official forums.
    Trust me, you get banned if you break the ToS on the forums, I know from first hand experiences. In your case, I have read what was posted and in reality you were trying to control what people could and could not say on a public forum outside of the ToS by calling it bigotry. So don't start pulling the sympathetic victim card you brought all that on yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theresa View Post
    I'm visiting this forum today and I used to be a regular in 2015/2014. It's depressing how toxic it is right now. The problem isn't criticism, is the lack of respect and willingness to have a decent discussion.
    The two problems, if you bring up criticism people will tell you to just simply quit, or make random excuses for the devs as to why your criticism is invalid. Now if these excuses has any sort of validation cool, but they never do. Other problem is if you praise the game you are a white knight. There are some that do have discussions, but subjects veer off topic quick because of these two things.

    Another big thing is people believe there should be a homogeneous opinion that x is bad or good.
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  3. #93
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    Tai Natuia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Don't forget "respects your time". Thanks I'm homeless now Yoshi P!
    This quote kills me everytime >.< I would be lying if I didn't laugh at this when friends are going through ARR and post ARR. Mini lan event involved one of them clicking on the foot prints in the snow for nine hours and while they wait looked at me and said "This is a game that really respects your time." Yoshi- P is a meme lord. He has so many ironic zingers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Dear lord what's with the sudden NA/EU/AU hate lmao. Stop being xenophobic, accept that you live in America, on the internet, and that you have to mingle with other cultures and even other Americans. :P
    When I speak to my Brazillian and Aussie friends the first thing I think about is how oh so different everyones culture is... *facepalms* The comment made prior just....I don't think I will ever be able to theory of mind my way around how this thinking occurs. Do we need to start building baby gates around borders and close them off because no one in any other country will suddenly just start zombie mauling other people. That has to be it. Passports, what are those, we never interact with other 'cultures' they are far too different. No one will ever be able to communicate! I honestly, this has me thinking of everyone as cave men now, and we see another cave man and start shaking sticks at each other when we discover someone if from a different location as someone else. Is that how some see other locations of living?
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    They can't be kind to each other. This forum is filled with the type - "If you don't agree with me then you are against me".
    Hot take. When you behave like a clown and post inflammatory opinions, expect opposition :^)
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Trust me, you get banned if you break the ToS on the forums, I know from first hand experiences. In your case, I have read what was posted and in reality you were trying to control what people could and could not say on a public forum outside of the ToS by calling it bigotry. So don't start pulling the sympathetic victim card you brought all that on yourself.
    Repeatedly making homophobic or transphobic remarks absolutely is an example of bigotry, and that violates the terms of use.

    To especially act like that massive thread isn’t still regularly receiving posts that include hateful and vulgar attacks against transgender people, said attacks including purposeful misgendering and concerning obsessions with what body parts that a transgender person may have, or to pretend like that transphobic behavior doesn’t reinforce harmful social attitudes that can lead to violence, is incredibly disingenuous.

    Said thread is also filled with other hateful comments like problematic double standards, perpetuated anti-gay stereotypes, really personal attacks that claim that people who support more inclusion are insecure with their own sexuality, and lots of rude name-calling among other things… And you really want to try to act like there aren’t bigoted comments anywhere in that massive thread, also ignoring that some were already deleted?
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  6. #96
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    Hot take. When you behave like a clown and post inflammatory opinions, expect opposition :^)
    Coming from the guy posting for no other reason than to be incendiary.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    Coming from the guy posting for no other reason than to be incendiary.
    I mean, its true, when you post stupid things, expect opposition. Going around being like "oh the community is being toxic now. Weh" because they're unhappy with a service that they're receiving, then You can't blame them for being unhappy :^)

    When you have people coming in defending the less than satisfactory things and even going as far as to call people who are critiquing something rightfully "whining" and "toxic" then you deserve every bit of ire that is coming your way, honey bunches of oats~
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  8. #98
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    It's just a vocal minority anyways. I use these forums when I can't play the game but when I can, I play it and enjoy it.
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  9. #99
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    Because the toxic positivity put the devs into the god-like pedestal and now they think they can get away doing half assed jobs, so people snaped.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyu-Momo View Post
    The forums these days.... Hm.... I almost miss the troll post spam.... almost.

    Let's see....

    1) Taking a game so seriously that you insult other people over it
    2) Being condescending, insulting, and/or overly aggressive to people who do not share your opinion or dare to be positive/negative

    ????

    Yikes. maybe the stress has gotten to people with all that's going on in the world, which, yeah understandable, but jiminy Christmas, everyone here needs to take a step back and relax.

    Housing, glamour, job balancing, etc etc needs work, yes, but that doesn't excuse spewing vitriol at each other.
    The people on this forum are not your enemies, they are fellow human beings who want to play this game and have fun, just like you do.

    Please, try to be kind to each other.
    Hate posts like this, it only serves to undermine the point of said posts. One dude called some other dudes a name GEEE why is the entire opposition so toxic, the game would be better off if no one complained
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