Quote Originally Posted by Nilroreo View Post
It's kinda funny thinking back to HW, there's a scene where Ardbert attempts to assault Hydaelyn for waiting until just then to finally help the First with the flood. I wonder how he'd feel learning that she's responsible for the chain of events leading to the flood happening in the first place. Only after most of the damage has already been done does she finally choose to play her part, eroding what's left of Minfilia's flesh and soul to stop it temporarily.



wasnt there a scene where hydaelyn(or another character who we can assume speaks for her, not quite sure remembering) said that she "tried to stop the rejoinings, and failed 7 times" (paraphrased) or something along those lines?


Unless you want to dismiss this as "her gaslighting us" or something along those lines... that dosnt seem like the rejoinigns where part of her plan, but that they happend despite her efforts, whatever becuase she simply failed, or because they had to happend as they where part of predetermined fate do to us traveling in time be irelevant for a second.


Same with stuff like the Flood in the first
its clearly stated that after 7 rejoinings her power was greatily diminished, so strongly she needed a "vessel" to interact with people.


She disregards the Shards in that sense that the source is the lynchpin, if the source falls the Shards are gone as well, and in a matter of live and death of the entire World and potentialy UNIVERSE, the live of individuals matter little in the grand scheme.


do i AGREE with her completly disregarding the shards with no means of escape? no(altough we dont know if the shards even have a "outerspace" like the source has or not given only the star was sunderd (or else we opend a gigantic can of worms and we stil dont know what purpose the Moons of the shards serve)) no i dont really agree with her, they had to be potentialy better ways to handel it.
Do i see this as her being "an antagonist on paper"? no not at all,not doing the best possible solution does not make you a villain, especialy as we still dont know how the sundering affected live imidiatly.


at best you can call Venat an "anti-hero" not an antagonist(well to the Ancients/ascians she was an antagonist but that... really means nothing or else almost any hero in any story is the antagonist if we view it from the oppositions view)


And to all the people who still say "why didnt we change anything in the past REEEEE timeline splits exists" first of all was it actually 100% confirmed that the timeline split? and it wasnt a open timeloop.
We know(or at least heavily implied) that Elpis is a closed time loop, we traveld in time because we where in elpis during that time period (as elidibus confussion about how he "remembers" us there implies altough a second potential idea exists for this at the end)

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