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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucida3b View Post
    That whole thing bout thinking bout it too much always annoys me, this isn't looney tunes where the point is the logic takes a break for comedy.

    This is a game were in the past it wants us to think about complex or semi-complex morel dilemma's or concepts now wants us not to? that is legitimately hackish writing
    Not only that, but it's a response someone ignorant of fantasy fandom would give. Fans love deep diving lore and he should know this. Why even bother crafting an intricate story if it's only for surface level enjoyment? Why would they even need Oda if that's the case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    Not only that, but it's a response someone ignorant of fantasy fandom would give. Fans love deep diving lore and he should know this. Why even bother crafting an intricate story if it's only for surface level enjoyment? Why would they even need Oda if that's the case?
    It's particularly tone deaf when he is on record as having praised people for doing it in the past. It isn't something he is unaware of. I rather suspect it was a way of showing his irritation because the pretty character he spent a month getting 'just right' in a cutscene was criticised.

    He'd do well to look at World of Warcraft and how the constant promotion of Sylvanas despite her incredibly divisive actions backfired and contributed to the game bleeding players over time.

    It should also be pretty obvious that not everybody wants the game to focus on the Scions and little else. Why he keeps promoting them to such an obnoxious degree is beyond me. It really feels as if he's mad that players dared to find something else more refreshing and interesting.
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    On further thought, the even simpler answer as to why Elidibus isn't in the picture is that it isn't trying to be "important Ancients", it's just all the friends we made in Elpis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    On further thought, the even simpler answer as to why Elidibus isn't in the picture is that it isn't trying to be "important Ancients", it's just all the friends we made in Elpis.
    We're friends with Hermes after the sick things he does? That man is a monster
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    On further thought, the even simpler answer as to why Elidibus isn't in the picture is that it isn't trying to be "important Ancients", it's just all the friends we made in Elpis.
    How are we friends with Hermes tho lmao....
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    I suspect that they didn't much thought into it, though I do find it interesting to see which characters the game chooses to promote across social media as that in itself feeds into biases.

    I've seen very little official media devoted to Garlemald despite its numerous fans and the simple fact that it, too, is meant to drawing to a close in terms of relevancy in the story moving forward.
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    Isn't Yoshi-P the one who forgot to include Krile in the promo art? If so, then wouldn't he also be responsible for who to include in the post-credit art? We saw from the Famitsu interview that he was 'surprised' people didn't take to Hermes the way they did to Emet. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    Isn't Yoshi-P the one who forgot to include Krile in the promo art? If so, then wouldn't he also be responsible for who to include in the post-credit art? We saw from the Famitsu interview that he was 'surprised' people didn't take to Hermes the way they did to Emet. -_-
    I am surprised they expected us to take to Hermes, they didn't really put much effort into making him actually that relatable or that engaging
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    I am surprised they expected us to take to Hermes, they didn't really put much effort into making him actually that relatable or that engaging
    I think it was only Comically-Out-Of-Touch Yoshida who expected us to find Hermes appealing and sympathetic. Even Ishikawa, who adores him, figured that 80% of the fanbase would hate him. And rightly so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    We're friends with Hermes after the sick things he does? That man is a monster
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    How are we friends with Hermes tho lmao....
    I mean, we were friends with him at the time, before it all fell apart at Ktisis. We connected. So it feels to me that everything we see him go through after that is watching a friend go off the rails and hoping he can be brought back to his senses.
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