Was the THM now blm mp shortage addressed in this patch?

[Firon]

No cause when soloing THM is much better than blm and you still have to sit and wait for mp to regen. I think convert recast timer is far too long cause whm can recover x10 more mp before we even use convert a second time. WHM/CNJ can revover 680+ mp every min and convert has an 6:30 cool down time.If whm uses Blissful mind every 1 min they get back a little over 4k mp in 6 mins and that's not even factoring in their other mp skill where blm gets back about 2-2.3k mp back every 6:30...

[Ryans]

No cause when soloing THM is much better than blm and you still have to sit and wait for mp to regen. I think convert recast timer is far too long cause whm can recover x10 more mp before we even use convert a second time. WHM/CNJ can revover 680+ mp every min and convert has an 6:30 cool down time.If whm uses Blissful mind every 1 min they get back a little over 4k mp in 6 mins and that's not even factoring in their other mp skill where blm gets back about 2-2.3k mp back every 6:30...

Why are you comparing mana regen of two different jobs? They play differently and they are responsible for two different roles in party play. A whm needs to have enough mana at all times to keep the party alive and a blm does not. Blm controls their own mana pool while the current fight controls a whms'. If a whm could stop a boss from doing any damage long enough for them to stop and recover mana whenever they needed it, you might have a valid point.

[Firon]

Why are you comparing mana regen of two different jobs? They play differently and they are responsible for two different roles in party play. A whm needs to have enough mana at all times to keep the party alive and a blm does not. Blm controls their own mana pool while the current fight controls a whms'. If a whm could stop a boss from doing any damage long enough for them to stop and recover mana whenever they needed it, you might have a valid point.

It is a Valid point cause THM is a sitting suck when it has no mp. Saying whm needs mp to always heal is the same for thm/blm they mp to do dmg that's all. I'm sorry if you wanna do all your fight's standing one spot but i don't. MNK as of right now can hardly run out of tp cause of spinning heal / invig but that doesn't make them op if they wanna live. Having mp ready does not make you op in whatever way, only thing you need to know if you over nuke you die that's all.

Also to use your whm example, Whm having almost unlimited mp does that make them OP? No cause you can die from spamming to many cure's and it should be the same case for blm. If you spam to many nuke's = death.

[Mister-Wonderful]

It is a Valid point cause THM is a sitting suck when it has no mp. Saying whm needs mp to always heal is the same for thm/blm they mp to do dmg that's all. I'm sorry if you wanna do all your fight's standing one spot but i don't. MNK as of right now can hardly run out of tp cause of spinning heal / invig but that doesn't make them op if they wanna live. Having mp ready does not make you op in whatever way, only thing you need to know if you over nuke you die that's all.

Also to use your whm example, Whm having almost unlimited mp does that make them OP? No cause you can die from spamming to many cure's and it should be the same case for blm. If you spam to many nuke's = death.

just...wow.../facepalm

[Firon]

just...wow.../facepalm

lol good come back. I'm glad you like to stand in one spot and fight bosses.

[Mister-Wonderful]

lol good come back. I'm glad you like to stand in one spot and fight bosses.

I dont have Mp issues or have to stay in 1 location because i know how to manage mp. I'm glad you can't see the reason why the WHM always has mp and you don't, but it didn't cross your mind that Whm keeps everyone in your party alive, and if they ran out all the time from constant casting, everyone dies. Or that you are doing BLM wrong.

[Firon]

I dont have Mp issues because i know how to manage mp. I'm glad you can't see the reason why the WHM always has mp and you don't, but it didn't cross your mind that Whm keeps everyone in your party alive, and if they ran out all the time from constant casting, everyone dies. Or that you are doing BLM wrong.

Until you realize standing in one spot does not equal good gameplay mechanics you will never understand this. I have no probs managing mp the problem is when fights start needing more moving around the class/job will became useless cause they cant do anything once they are out of mp.

I want you to go solo monsters lvl 50-53 as THM and cnj/whm. CNJ/WHM will always come out on top cause they don't have to wait for mp to come back. Every class/job in this game except thm and blm can go all out cause they all have ways to constantly do dmg w/o stopping THM/BLM is the rule to this exception. Every fight ppl use blm for they just sit in one spot and twiddle their thumbs. You must be on those ppl who think XI fight's where dynamic cause they were not.

I mean seriously who can't manage their mp when they do nothing but stand in one spot. Hell you get back 75% of the mp use waiting on thunder's cool downs.

[Coglin]

lol good come back. I'm glad you like to stand in one spot and fight bosses.

Man you sure are a jerk if someone doesn't agree with you 100%. what worse is you will actually turn it into an attack like this where you make a moronic assumption and attempt to tell everyone reading that he said

like to stand in one spot and fight bosses.

[Firon]

Man you sure are a jerk if someone doesn't agree with you 100%. what worse is you will actually turn it into an attack like this where you make a moronic assumption and attempt to tell everyone reading that he said

Cogin your one of the biggest dicks around her so.. anything you say is pointless at this point. I am never a jerk to anyone who disagrees with me. He claims BLM/THM has no mp issue's in boss fight's that's cause all them require you stand in one spot 80% of the time. Anyone who solo's on THM/BLM knows it's a slow ass pain and whm does it better if you wanna play an mage. Like i said sitting around twiddling your thumbs waiting for mp is not fun.