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  1. #41
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    Kuritzkale's Avatar
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    Crystallized Lore
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    This is the kind of change that just makes me... confused. Were new players really complaining enough about this that the devs caught notice and decided to change it? Because that seems hard to believe. If not that, then why? Why would they think that lingering aoes (something EVERYWHERE in the game) should just be removed from this dungeon? I don't understand why they would remove the first instance (I think) of a often repeated mechanic. At this point it feels like they're just changing things because they can. I would appreciate it if they added their reasoning behind all of the changes in each patch, but maybe that would be too much work? I would just appreciate a way to understand what the development team is thinking sometimes because it's been harder and harder to understand recently.
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  2. #42
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    Breakbeat's Avatar
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    Billy Shears
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Real World: "It's 2022 and we are including everyone! Any lifestyle, no matter how uncommon, is accepted - be proud! The weak and the strong, the meek and the brave... we're all equal!"

    In-game: "If your skill level is low, get out, we don't want you here. This game here needs to remain HARD so I feel good about my skills. To hell with you and your skill levels; git gud."

    Nice.
    (1)
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

  3. #43
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Real World: "It's 2022 and we are including everyone! Any lifestyle, no matter how uncommon, is accepted - be proud! The weak and the strong, the meek and the brave... we're all equal!"

    In-game: "If your skill level is low, get out, we don't want you here. This game here needs to remain HARD so I feel good about my skills. To hell with you and your skill levels; git gud."

    Nice.
    Wanting the game to have challenge is in no way to the level of what you imply.
    It's a little insulting this is the juxtaposition you take.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  4. #44
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    MiaShino's Avatar
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    Mia Shino
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Real World: "It's 2022 and we are including everyone! Any lifestyle, no matter how uncommon, is accepted - be proud! The weak and the strong, the meek and the brave... we're all equal!"

    In-game: "If your skill level is low, get out, we don't want you here. This game here needs to remain HARD so I feel good about my skills. To hell with you and your skill levels; git gud."

    Nice.
    Why is it that in every. fricken. one of these threads the same talking heads saunter in with this same bad take. Look, everyone is not equal. You can either buck up and realize this or self delude till the cows come home.

    The game should remain engaging. Engaging.

    For the love of the twelve can we stop beating this dead chocobo.
    (5)

  5. #45
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Real World: "It's 2022 and we are including everyone! Any lifestyle, no matter how uncommon, is accepted - be proud! The weak and the strong, the meek and the brave... we're all equal!"

    In-game: "If your skill level is low, get out, we don't want you here. This game here needs to remain HARD so I feel good about my skills. To hell with you and your skill levels; git gud."

    Nice.
    The entire school and college life would say otherwise: if you fail, say, math class, you just do it again until you pass - worst case scenario, you repeat the year. You don't get to pass just because 'you tried'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  6. #46
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    This game can be dumbed down to the point where every Job has a single button rotation like Healers and some people would still ask if the button can have a Toggle.
    (6)
    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  7. #47
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    AziraSyuren's Avatar
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    Azira Syuren
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    This is such a small and meaningless change. It doesn't make the fight more or less engaging (neither have any of the ARR dungeon changes tbh), nor did it teach the players anything interesting (unlike pre-nerf Coincounter which kinda did).

    I don't get it, but it's not worth getting upset over. Shit like this doesn't even meaningfully dumb down the game like some job changes do and anyone who thinks it does is overreacting.
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  8. #48
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Isgebind isn't all that was nerfed. They removed almost every roaming dragon mob in the dungeon, removed all the room mobs and lessened the pull potential of others. Granted, with EXP only coming from bosses now, it wasn't like you bothered with most of these mobs but it's a bit sad the massive chain pulling from days old is no longer a thing.
    (1)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #49
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    The entire school and college life would say otherwise: if you fail, say, math class, you just do it again until you pass - worst case scenario, you repeat the year. You don't get to pass just because 'you tried'.
    They also don't turn algebra into basic addition.
    (1)

  10. #50
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    Sage Cologne
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    Ravana
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Im not talking about the boss they changed because trusts couldn’t interact with the old cannons that are now just sitting in the background.

    In the final boss the ice puddles the dragon used to drop would remain on the floor and cause damage to anyone standing on them. They now disappear making it super easy to dodge the dragon that gives a 5 second telegraph on its dives.

    Dear SE… the dungeons are easy enough…. If this is about the trusts too then at least add something else in.
    I hated stone and the cannons were impossible so yeah make it easier for everyone to pass. Good job square
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    sagacious

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