GIVE CARBUNCLE SOMETHING TO DO/GIVE 90 SUMMONS GLAMOUR

[Exodus-E]

https://youtu.be/kSSuONrV_Ck?t=13

Carbuncle is a full on summon just like Ifrit and Shiva. It should be treated as such.

Two things.

A) Different universes, different rules.
In FF14's universe, Carbuncles are aetheric constructs created by Arcanists through the use of arcane geometries (more specifically, gemstone-based ones).
They're not Primals.
At best, they serve as the "focus" for various ACN/SMN skills.

B) There are various other summons from past games that didn't become Primals in FF14 (thus, won't have an Egi/Trance/etc. made out of).
Such as Kujata, Siren, Diabolos, Mist Dragon, Eden, etc.

So yeah...

[ty_taurus]

Two things.

A) Different universes, different rules.
In FF14's universe, Carbuncles are aetheric constructs created by Arcanists through the use of arcane geometries (more specifically, gemstone-based ones).
They're not Primals.
At best, they serve as the "focus" for various ACN/SMN skills.

B) There are various other summons from past games that didn't become Primals in FF14 (thus, won't have an Egi/Trance/etc. made out of).
Such as Kujata, Siren, Diabolos, Mist Dragon, Eden, etc.

So yeah...

If we were to see an expansion of the glamour system, I would honestly not care at all if they created some random justification for allowing us to have demi-primals take on the shape on non-primal entities specifically to allow the use of glamours for past Final Fantasy characters. So many jobs already have the lore of their actions mangled from rebalancing. I feel like giving people the option is far more valuable than choosing this example of lore to stay traditional with. The real work would come into adjusting the particle effects to match your glamoured pet since these are all entities that have forms and animations in the game. No clue what they'll do with the egi glamour system moving forward, but it would doubtfully be that crazy.

To be honest though, I'd love to see the ability to glamour the effects and actions of jobs. Have the option to glamour BLM so that Ice is your offensive element and Fire is your MP regeneration element. Let WHM glamour their spells to use Earth, Wind, and Water again. Even if that was added to the cash shop, I'd buy an action glamour set if I really liked one.

[Arclyte]

Two things.

A) Different universes, different rules.
In FF14's universe, Carbuncles are aetheric constructs created by Arcanists through the use of arcane geometries (more specifically, gemstone-based ones).
They're not Primals.
At best, they serve as the "focus" for various ACN/SMN skills.

B) There are various other summons from past games that didn't become Primals in FF14 (thus, won't have an Egi/Trance/etc. made out of).
Such as Kujata, Siren, Diabolos, Mist Dragon, Eden, etc.

So yeah...

Bad lore is a poor excuse for denying Summoners the job they've enjoyed in FF games for decades.

Dragoons get to look cool and jump, Paladins get to tank and use white magic, Black Mages get classic black magic etc etc. Summoners however are stuck with a "carbuncle" who stands around doing nothing, and used to be stuck with stupid looking "Egis" until they thankfully added ifrit/titan/garuda at level 90.

You don't have to reinvent the wheel. Final Fantasy summoners are already cool. Just give us that.

[Flana]

There are various other summons from past games that didn't become Primals in FF14 (thus, won't have an Egi/Trance/etc. made out of).
Such as Kujata, Siren, Diabolos, Mist Dragon, Eden, etc.

The funny thing is the lore for egi glamours means any of these are on the table for glamouring over the useless carbuncle and pre-90 gem summons. Since the glamour is just shoving the aetherial construct into a new appearance it doesn't matter if that's a primal's image or just something built to look different (like carbuncle). Still be funny to see Leviathan poop fire but it's a completely valid thing for how the system was described.

[LauraAdalena]

The funny thing is the lore for egi glamours means any of these are on the table for glamouring over the useless carbuncle and pre-90 gem summons. Since the glamour is just shoving the aetherial construct into a new appearance it doesn't matter if that's a primal's image or just something built to look different (like carbuncle). Still be funny to see Leviathan poop fire but it's a completely valid thing for how the system was described.

Which I’m glad you brought up. Thank you and continue to say something! It’s 2 patches without them where they could have fixed this but they still haven’t!