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Thread: Housing Rant

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    Housing Rant

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    Okay? We know it's not okay to have Shell FCs. What we don't need is yet another post about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Okay? We know it's not okay to have Shell FCs. What we don't need is yet another post about it.
    Until Square Enix does something about it, it is indeed okay to have Shell FCs and own an entire ward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Until Square Enix does something about it, it is indeed okay to have Shell FCs and own an entire ward.
    You are mistaken. The fact that they have taken steps literally against FCs proves otherwise. You are justifying a loophole in their already not-well-thoughtout plans. Just because they have not put a logical, common sense method in doesn't mean it's okay to do it.

    That's like trying to justify crimes. "Sure, we know it's bad to hurt little Timmy, but in the end it's okay because we were born with arms and hands to slap him around a bit."
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    I actually think you are mistaken. They were working within the system as it was implemented. I wouldn't even call it a loophole, and I certainly wouldn't compare it to a "crime" lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    You are mistaken. The fact that they have taken steps literally against FCs proves otherwise. You are justifying a loophole in their already not-well-thoughtout plans. Just because they have not put a logical, common sense method in doesn't mean it's okay to do it.

    That's like trying to justify crimes. "Sure, we know it's bad to hurt little Timmy, but in the end it's okay because we were born with arms and hands to slap him around a bit."
    Justifying? No no, I don't like it, I think they're assholes for doing it. If it was up to me, I'd ban them from owning houses permanently, and remove all their houses without refunding any items in them
    But its not up to me, its up to Square Enix, who have done absolutely nothing about this issue for years, they dont even really acknowledge it.

    Rules without enforcement aren't rules, they're suggestions.
    As such, in the current environment that Square Enix allows to exist, owning an entire ward or buying houses with shell FCs with the intention of RMT trading or whatever, is perfectly fine.

    I do not like it, I wish they would do something about it, but this isn't a new issue, this has been ongoing for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    You are mistaken. The fact that they have taken steps literally against FCs proves otherwise. You are justifying a loophole in their already not-well-thoughtout plans. Just because they have not put a logical, common sense method in doesn't mean it's okay to do it.

    That's like trying to justify crimes. "Sure, we know it's bad to hurt little Timmy, but in the end it's okay because we were born with arms and hands to slap him around a bit."
    The steps they're taking are to hinder RMT resales of houses. The only impact the changes have on shell FCs is to make them wait 30 days after creating the FC to buy a house.

    SE has made it clear that they're fine with the shell FCs when the "owned as buyer" restriction is placed at the character level, not the account level. If they weren't okay with them, they would have made it account level. They would have also placed a restriction on the minimum number of members needed to retain a house instead of just buy a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The steps they're taking are to hinder RMT resales of houses.
    Yeah, pretty much. hinder but they can't stop it...

    (From a reselling discord)
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    Mentioned in Kotaku (Click bait champion of the world, but still)

    https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/04/in...ousing-crisis/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Mentioned in Kotaku (Click bait champion of the world, but still)

    https://www.kotaku.com.au/2022/04/in...ousing-crisis/
    the amount of misinformation in that article.

    oh why do I bother.
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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