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    SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep's Avatar
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    Ake Homura
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    Ravana
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    Carpenter Lv 90

    Doubling down on "Playing solo" is a stupid direction

    Don't get me wrong. Trust system for low level dungeon is great.

    However, the general idea/direction behind it is just misguided. Am I the only one who's annoyed that me and a few other friends who decided to play FFXIV essentially have to play solo 80% of the time through MSQ? And we eventually just decide to not bother and play something like Civ6 for our game nights.

    Have better support for multiplayer through MSQ. Like letting 2 or 3 people party for dungeon and fill the last spot with trust. Let us choose to start from the same starting point etc. New Game+ doesn't even give exp so I can't play an alt job with another friend on a new play through.

    FFXIV is bad for multiplayer through MSQ, and the way to fix it is not "to make solo experience better". Please make MSQ more multiplayer friendly.
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    Ravor's Avatar
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    Ravor Elliard
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    Atomos
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    About the partying up for dungeon, you can still queque normally and find other player to help, the trust or solo system exist for people who dont want to engage with other player or human at all or just want to chill alone. Concerning the new game +, yes please make it give you EXP, even if just 50% exp i will still do it, this way it will reward and encourage more player to do new game + along other new player
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    Corvus Valerius
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    Golem
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SleeeeeeepySleeeeeeep View Post
    Don't get me wrong. Trust system for low level dungeon is great.

    However, the general idea/direction behind it is just misguided. Am I the only one who's annoyed that me and a few other friends who decided to play FFXIV essentially have to play solo 80% of the time through MSQ? And we eventually just decide to not bother and play something like Civ6 for our game nights.

    Have better support for multiplayer through MSQ. Like letting 2 or 3 people party for dungeon and fill the last spot with trust. Let us choose to start from the same starting point etc. New Game+ doesn't even give exp so I can't play an alt job with another friend on a new play through.

    FFXIV is bad for multiplayer through MSQ, and the way to fix it is not "to make solo experience better". Please make MSQ more multiplayer friendly.
    I would personally prefer being able to fill empty slots with trust, for a half PC half NPC party, but that's work for SE, so; probably unlikely. I agree, though.

    In general, more options is better. They just don't really seem to care about that.
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    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
    They wont even make regular quests give worthwhile EXP.
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    Saya Finwel
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
    I agree with you on that one it just lessen the experience of NG+ for no good reason.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
    It’s not that hard or even overwhelming to grind out jobs to max unless you are the impatient type that needs it all done in like 2 weeks.

    NG+ exists so you can brush up on the story, or re experience it for the sake of enjoying scenes of the story, not as a leveling experience.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
    No because that would invalidate all other avenues of exp gain for rewards if you could just MSQ grind over and over again with your alt jobs.
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    Rask Crowe
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    I'd like if we could do the MSQ instances with someone else. This is something that Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 excelled at, which have similar instanced content like FFXIV. I can play through the entirety of the main story instances with my friends in those games, without having to disband our group every so often to tackle things separately.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    It always struck me as kind of dumb that NG+ doesn't even give xp. God forbid we make levelling alt jobs FUN...no, gotta push people towards getting the stupid skips from the store.
    it's not really a way to push people to buy skips there is multiple ways to level easily without msq or need of skip

    releveling with NG+ would just be speed run of msq
    mashing through text and skipping cutscenes i wouldn't really call that fun
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