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  1. #201
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    TwistedTea's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanadaX View Post
    The Vocal majority wanted a lottery and we got it. Now people want a whole new system it hasn't even been a month.
    The sensible majority wanted more equitable access to the housing system. They wanted SE to address the fundamental supply problem with a long-term solution; fully instanced housing.

    The lottery solution was another attempt at keeping the limited ward system on life support.

    You would think after nearly 10 years, SE would realize that persisting with the limited ward house system is not working out for the majority of players.

    Stop blaming players for SE being short-sighted.
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  2. #202
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    Just wanted to say I appreciate your sentiment and wish more people held it.
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  3. #203
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    Vai Vilthuril
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
    Does it address the glaring scarcity issues that incentivize RMT? Oh hell no. It does, however, address some of the shortcomings of the existing system. It's (hopefully) a stopgap.

    It sorta put a stop to the casual RMT participants. Sadly it was a gimme for the hardcore element. Maybe, maybe, they'll give instanced housing some more serious consideration if they're not already working on it.
    It's more like putting a band-aid on a corpse.
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  4. #204
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    SanadaX's Avatar
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    King Vaughn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    The sensible majority wanted more equitable access to the housing system. They wanted SE to address the fundamental supply problem with a long-term solution; fully instanced housing.

    The lottery solution was another attempt at keeping the limited ward system on life support.

    You would think after nearly 10 years, SE would realize that persisting with the limited ward house system is not working out for the majority of players.

    Stop blaming players for SE being short-sighted.
    You are missing the point entirely. Even in your own words "You would think after nearly 10 years" If SE gave a hoot they would have had a 50/50 split. Thing about it is "Lottery" was the most shouted above all else. The system itself people are currently bashing just because yet again they did not get a house. "Shell FCs have us beat" "Shadow Realtors" look this board before you try to defend the players. There are faults from SE. Everyone can see that. Players too.
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  5. #205
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    Micela Arzur
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Stop blaming players for SE being short-sighted.
    They´re not short-sighted. As long as housing is that limited, SE will have more or less subs, which would´ve dropped especially in the meantime of content-lacks. So players continue to pay without even playing, just to not to lose their hard earned housing. It´s nothing but a smart and simple way to bind players on a game, meanwhile others use battlepass systems or free stuff here and there. Easy money-making.

    EDIT: In that kind of thinking the lottery-system is even better for them. Noone wants to risk to lose a house now since it´ll be way harder to get a new one than it was in the past.
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    Last edited by ssunny2008; 04-22-2022 at 01:32 AM.

  6. #206
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanadaX View Post
    The Vocal majority wanted a lottery and we got it. Now people want a whole new system it hasn't even been a month.
    No, they didn't. It was a vocal minority asking for the lottery. The "vocal" discussion here in the forum was pretty evenly split between those suggesting lottery and those pointing out that a lottery doesn't solve anything.

    We don't actually know what the majority wanted because the majority, as usual, said nothing at all. Most players don't give feedback at all. They just go with the flow and play the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valodion View Post
    I spent many hours fighting against bots clicking placards .... one lottery and I got a house. Guess I'm just really lucky, but the new system worked for me.
    It wasn't the lottery that worked for you.

    It was SE adding 1440 new plots to every world.

    Imagine if the lottery had started this week but there was no new housing district. Even with demolition active, it's rare to see more than a dozen houses become available each week. With it suspended the number would be more like 2 or 3.

    How would your luck have faired if instead of only needing to compete against a half dozen players, you were competing against 3,000 players trying to get one of 8 plots?
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  7. #207
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    Ethan Targaryen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It wasn't the lottery that worked for you.

    It was SE adding 1440 new plots to every world.

    Imagine if the lottery had started this week but there was no new housing district. Even with demolition active, it's rare to see more than a dozen houses become available each week. With it suspended the number would be more like 2 or 3.

    How would your luck have faired if instead of only needing to compete against a half dozen players, you were competing against 3,000 players trying to get one of 8 plots?
    Honestly waiting for the next lottery to see the salt mine that's going to be. Lots of these people thought the "lottery" would be "OH SO GREAT." When all i read was "prepare to have your chances to get a plot reduced to basically 0, LOL."
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  8. #208
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanXdeath View Post
    Honestly waiting for the next lottery to see the salt mine that's going to be. Lots of these people thought the "lottery" would be "OH SO GREAT." When all i read was "prepare to have your chances to get a plot reduced to basically 0, LOL."
    I didn't have any expectations of winning a house (surprise I didn't), but the lottery system actually let me engage in the housing system again which I hadn't done in years after getting relocated on multiple times while clicking signs. I had no expectations of it being anything than a band-aid for the jacked up system that SE has for housing, but it is still infinitely better for me than clicking a sign ever was. I think another aspect of the disappointment in the lottery system is that only 6 wards were dedicated to personal housing and we didn't find out about it till close to the patch going live, so people had even lower odds than they probably initially were hoping.
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  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanXdeath View Post
    Honestly waiting for the next lottery to see the salt mine that's going to be. Lots of these people thought the "lottery" would be "OH SO GREAT." When all i read was "prepare to have your chances to get a plot reduced to basically 0, LOL."
    ^ This man understands
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  10. #210
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    Vai Vilthuril
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    The lottery was great compared to losing to bots spamming at house placards.
    It's still terrible. Absolutely abominable and atrocious.
    Housing for all.
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