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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    I agree and disagree at the same time, i don't know if you tried the pod mount but the way you swing when flying feel less static than when you fly with other mount and i wish that they tweaked a little flying to feel more ... in motion ?

    Mainly cuz it is an animation that pre-dated the mount release.
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  2. #12
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    Alys Isshu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    In comparison, XIV's mounts and flying feels.....cheap. Oh hey! You, elephant! You can fly! Adorable fat cat? Up in the air you go! It doesn't make any sense, although in XIV I suppose there's little reason why you shouldn't fly everywhere due to a lack of overworld activities (that's a rant for another day). But yeah, when everything can do everything, it can feel boring.
    What one person considers a shortcoming another considers it a feature.

    I loved my Griffon but having to constantly be on the lookout for peaks and safe spots got tiring. Last night I was doing hunting log on a low level job on an alt while dinner was cooking parts of which needed attention at various times. When the timer went off for the next step I jumped on my mount and flew up to avoid trash mob aggro. In GW2 if I was lucky there would have been someplace convenient to perch. Even still it would require several hops. More often than not I'd have to port someplace safe.

    I understand the desire for more active gameplay features and sympathize but I'd rather not have my QoL sacrificed for it.
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  3. #13
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Just because something is ok doesn't mean it can't be improved upon.
    It's funny how people complain that somethings not finished, like Viera and Hrothgar as the hot topics.
    But still want to have more and more.
    Adding to the pile of workload so things never will get done.

    If the flying is ok and working as it should then let it be ok.
    Let the developers work on what's currently on the table before adding more to it.
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  4. #14
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    In comparison, XIV's mounts and flying feels.....cheap. Oh hey! You, elephant! You can fly! Adorable fat cat? Up in the air you go! It doesn't make any sense, although in XIV I suppose there's little reason why you shouldn't fly everywhere due to a lack of overworld activities (that's a rant for another day). But yeah, when everything can do everything, it can feel boring.
    Well, at start only the mounts which could obviously fly could fly.
    The rest was restricted to the ground.
    But the players (as usual) kept begging for more and more mounts to be able to fly.
    And for what reasons? "It's magic", "It's a game and should just be enjoyed for what it is", and so on.
    So here we are, where elephants can fly.
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    we need mount emotes. Or more actions
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Rip it off! I want epic gryphon flying!
    The servers absolutely would not be able to handle that, sadly. Either we get the server-based movement of chocobo racing (yeuck!) or we get client-side movement, while watching every other player phasing into obstacles before teleporting towards where they actually were going. (Remember, every player is ~3 seconds behind where they actually are on their screen)

    (Now, if they wanted to actually bring their server responsiveness into this decade, i'd be all for it!)
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    ~sigh~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Well, at start only the mounts which could obviously fly could fly.
    The rest was restricted to the ground.
    But the players (as usual) kept begging for more and more mounts to be able to fly.
    And for what reasons? "It's magic", "It's a game and should just be enjoyed for what it is", and so on.
    So here we are, where elephants can fly.
    I lived through those days but totally forgot about them. lol. I've mostly comes to terms with XIV being the way it is, but some days it annoys me more than others (like today!).


    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
    What one person considers a shortcoming another considers it a feature.

    I loved my Griffon but having to constantly be on the lookout for peaks and safe spots got tiring. Last night I was doing hunting log on a low level job on an alt while dinner was cooking parts of which needed attention at various times. When the timer went off for the next step I jumped on my mount and flew up to avoid trash mob aggro. In GW2 if I was lucky there would have been someplace convenient to perch. Even still it would require several hops. More often than not I'd have to port someplace safe.

    I understand the desire for more active gameplay features and sympathize but I'd rather not have my QoL sacrificed for it.
    And fair enough! Although this is why you do the skyscale quest and can hover wherever you please! Flying can definitely be a nice QoL perk, but IMO it can also invalidate a lot of the world and existing content. This game already feels like a glorified chat/waiting room to me, and so being able to fly anywhere you like, while skipping everything below, only adds to that feeling. I know flying in MMOs is fairly divisive, so it's not like there's any single solution that's going to work for everyone. I just wish things felt more purposeful here. :X
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    It's funny how people complain that somethings not finished, like Viera and Hrothgar as the hot topics.
    But still want to have more and more.
    Adding to the pile of workload so things never will get done.

    If the flying is ok and working as it should then let it be ok.
    Let the developers work on what's currently on the table before adding more to it.
    (-Insert Retort that SE is a Multimillion Dollar Company and they have no excuse. Then insert followup that they can just hire more people-)
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  10. #19
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I honestly can't think of an example where it was done well.
    Lord of the Rings Online, with the warsteeds introduced with the Rohan expansions.

    Mind you, I haven't played LotRO in aaaaages -- honestly, I think the point where they introduced mounted combat was a few months before the point at which I wandered off. So it may well have changed dramatically and be terrible now, or something. But I actually did think their mounted combat was pretty solid when introduced, especially as a first cut of a mounted combat system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  11. #20
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    It's funny how people complain that somethings not finished, like Viera and Hrothgar as the hot topics.
    But still want to have more and more.
    Adding to the pile of workload so things never will get done.

    If the flying is ok and working as it should then let it be ok.
    Let the developers work on what's currently on the table before adding more to it.
    I haven't complained about Hrothy (I could care less about them tbh but still do wish the hrothy players their ears back) and I don't mind viera either, sad I can't wear all the hats I would on miqo but otherwise enjoy the race and am pleased they add new hair.

    I fail to see what your issue is, it's an innocent suggestion that is not likely to happen at all and you are acting like people's suggestions are equivalent to us walking up to SE dev desks and throwing out their current work lol
    Mounts in this game could be vastly improved, their movement and how they feel to fly and run around as another said feels stiff. I think at least our chocobo should feel MUCH more special given it is our companion.

    Players can ask for whatever they want, it is for the devs to manage their time and decide what takes priority. Just because they see player feedback doesn't mean they will act on it for some time. As we can see from the years of nothing.. hrothy hair was not that high prio compared to making bun bois a thing. I would bet that female hrothgar will be much less bestial so they can avoid the issues they have had with the males. At least I hope they ain't got the males hunchback.

    Just because something is good doesn't mean it can't be improved. FFXIV took a lot of inspiration from WoW, it could do with learning a thing or two from GW2.
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