WoW introduced a Dragon race in their game. Yoshi-P, please...

[RitsukoSonoda]

Another example of why the Au Ra got cheated from their concept art. Our draconic race is nowhere near draconic enough, though I doubt a full dragon look like that wow one would be as good in ff14's engine...and developer care if the viera/hrothgar is any example

Welp, this why mods exist.

perhaps in 4 years time or so when female hrothgar have come out and gotten fixed. Then we might see better character customisation inc properly draconic au ra not just hyurs with horns and a tail.

idk, i wont be playing then unless they dramatically reverse course on job design after 6.2 and start fixing some of the masses of long term problems they been ignoring.

They also had other draconic races from previous FF titles but I suppose at the time they wanted something that fit a more human mold. Burmecians from FFIX looked reptillian/draconic to me but their proportions and faces weren't really human though part the proportions could be attributed to the game's more cartoonish art style. FFTA2 had a race called Gria which had horns that protruded vertically from their head and also had wings on their back. Though given their issues with Miqo'te tails the wings on the Gria would have been 1000 times worse.

[reivaxe]

Is this thread asking for a new race or a DRG transformation?

Cause people in here keep talking about a race yet we can see with Reaper that they can very much make a transformation for DRG's kit.

[Lecru]

Is this thread asking for a new race or a DRG transformation?

Cause people in here keep talking about a race yet we can see with Reaper that they can very much make a transformation for DRG's kit.

Why would DRG get a transformation. At all. The reason Estinien had it was because he was controlled and harnessing Nidhoggs power. DRG's don't do that and have no reason to transform at all. And further, if the story was paid attention to at all. Reaper does that because they made a pact with a Voidsent.

[anhaato]

Why would DRG get a transformation. At all. The reason Estinien had it was because he was controlled and harnessing Nidhoggs power. DRG's don't do that and have no reason to transform at all. And further, if the story was paid attention to at all. Reaper does that because they made a pact with a Voidsent.

Your responses to this thread come across as reasonable and measured.

Anyways I support this. If we can channel the power of the eye, why shouldn’t we be able to let it take over?

[Lecru]

Your responses to this thread come across as reasonable and measured.

Anyways I support this. If we can channel the power of the eye, why shouldn’t we be able to let it take over?

Because we have no eyes to channel.... Estinien had Nidhoggs. Plain and simple. We're not going around ripping Dragon eyes out lmfao And because it's not healthy and you saw the toll transforming took on Estinien. Again. If you want that kind of thing. WoW is down the street. But lore and gameplay wise it makes no sense for Dragoon to do this


Also, the reason I say WoW is down the street is because I played WoW up to WoD at the same time I was playing 1.0 and ARR (been playing since 1.0). WoW is known for it's weird transformation shit and the toys and stones that allow you to do that kind of thing.

[Larirawiel]

It feels like you'd need to make some pretty large goal-post jumps to make polygon-adding armor (even beyond the gloves, helm, boots, and shoulders) a "rarity". Since Wrath, outside of especially basic or leveling gear, sets in which every slot gets further polygons, rather than just texturing over the body, has been the norm, not the rarity.

And that's exactly why we've seen more recolor sets as race count has increased; they DO have to make many of those pieces race-specific.

That's not to say you're wrong about the advantages and disadvantages; it's just that the "XIV" system is also the norm in WoW.

If we're talking about the number of layers involved in a piece of armor, then, yes, WoW's armor sets tend to prioritize optimization more so than XIV. Chain mail in either isn't about to add a separate layer, but a greater number of the details on a given piece of WoW gear, on average, will be skin-level, with usually some 2-3 layers atop, whereas XIV might have up to a couple more and tends to use the skin layer almost only for tattoos.

(Though, honestly, when one zooms well in, the WoW sets at full graphics still often look better than XIV's likewise at full -- even if much of that comes down to a more forgivingly cartoonish style across that whole game.)

I spoke with a private server developer some years ago. He said, that Blizzard recycles almost everything what is in the game many times. They have some sets of legs (if it is a dress then they replace the legs with a generic dress model), chests, arms per race and gender. And then they combine it and there are some hundreds of combinations possible as a result. The very majority of the items is made with those prebuild assets. Truely unique items are not very common.

And the WoW engine supports bump mapping. Combined with transparency effects it can look very 3D-ish, even if it is a 2D texture.

And yes, many textures and pieces of gear look better than the FF14 counterparts because the textures have a higher resolution. Why the FF14 game designers still produce low-res textures, i do not know. I guess, it is a management decision. The FF14 engine can handle high-res textures without problems.


Cheers

[anhaato]

Because we have no eyes to channel.... Estinien had Nidhoggs. Plain and simple. We're not going around ripping Dragon eyes out lmfao And because it's not healthy and you saw the toll transforming took on Estinien. Again. If you want that kind of thing. WoW is down the street. But lore and gameplay wise it makes no sense for Dragoon to do this

Interesting take.

[KageTokage]

I like to think it's our bond with Midgarsormr that enables most of the draconic nuttiness we start utilizing from level 51 onwards.

The bread and butter dragoons are never seen using the more advanced techniques when they do show up.

[Lecru]

Interesting take.

Yeah and?
Hraesvelgr LENT us one of his eyes to have near the strength to fight Nidhogg. Do you really think that something that took a Trial to fight (8 heroes) they would just go "Yknow, I know it's been 3 expansions but hey you guys can fully transform now". lol no. It's not happening. Also LorD and Nastrond are not the same as what Nidhogg did to Estinien. But if you're going to do nothing but grasp. Grasp away

[anhaato]

Yeah and?
Hraesvelgr LENT us one of his eyes to have near the strength to fight Nidhogg. Do you really think that something that took a Trial to fight (8 heroes) they would just go "Yknow, I know it's been 3 expansions but hey you guys can fully transform now". lol no. It's not happening. Also LorD and Nastrond are not the same as what Nidhogg did to Estinien. But if you're going to do nothing but grasp. Grasp away

8 players and 3 expansions later we could summon Phoenix, so yes I truly do think so. Even less for Bahamut. Also, Stardiver is a move that Estinien explicitly only uses under the power of Nidhogg, why can we use it? I’ll grasp away but I honestly don’t need to reach very far. Even if it’s not Nidhogg we have Middy or Hraesvelgr to justify it.