[Suggestion] Revamp Marketboard To Function Like WoW/EVE

[Padudu]

I want everyone to make money so, personally, yes. This isn't some martyr "everyone should be rich!", but more I want competition to be healthier and more encouraged as opposed to eventually stamped out and controlled by someone who has thousands of a certain thing and intentionally crashes the market on a whim.

Idk, I've no problem selling as it is even on ARR crafted items (dyes). Just be smart about your stacks. The problem I see is that you already kind of have to have a constant watch over what you put on the board due to bots/undercutters, I just feel like it'd worsen that issue when you have a bunch of bots selling at stacks of 99 and undercutting you, and you have little leeway to sell when some of these bots put listings up within *seconds* of yours, but idk. I won't say that I LIKE the current system, but it's workable even with bots all over the place and ruining the MB.

[BrokentoothMarch]

Idk, I've no problem selling as it is even on ARR crafted items (dyes). Just be smart about your stacks. The problem I see is that you already kind of have to have a constant watch over what you put on the board due to bots/undercutters, I just feel like it'd worsen that issue when you have a bunch of bots selling at stacks of 99 and undercutting you, and you have little leeway to sell when some of these bots put listings up within *seconds* of yours, but idk. I won't say that I LIKE the current system, but it's workable even with bots all over the place and ruining the MB.

That's kind of the issue, isn't it? I'm not saying there's no workaround. I'm aware smart-stacking is the way. A lot of my money is made from upcharging materia because of course people would rather pay a slight increase for stacks of 3 instead of the madlads who think dumping 99 across the board is the right move. I just think it shouldn't be my responsibility. Not because of some entitlement or because I deserve it, but because if there's a better system that has been implemented to the point of being standard, I have to wonder why it isn't standard.

To say nothing that this would drive down prices on a lot of controlled or overpriced markets. The game has been happy with gil sinks lately that strike mostly the midcore crowd, but has done little to adjust pricing on the MB. I'm not for artificial manipulating of prices from the devs, of course, so the remaining option is to standardize the MB.

At least how I think things.

[Padudu]

That's kind of the issue, isn't it? I'm not saying there's no workaround. I'm aware smart-stacking is the way. A lot of my money is made from upcharging materia because of course people would rather pay a slight increase for stacks of 3 instead of the madlads who think dumping 99 across the board is the right move. I just think it shouldn't be my responsibility. Not because of some entitlement or because I deserve it, but because if there's a better system that has been implemented to the point of being standard, I have to wonder why it isn't standard.

To say nothing that this would drive down prices on a lot of controlled or overpriced markets. The game has been happy with gil sinks lately that strike mostly the midcore crowd, but has done little to adjust pricing on the MB. I'm not for artificial manipulating of prices from the devs, of course, so the remaining option is to standardize the MB.

At least how I think things.

The madlads are the reason why I make money though so I have to give it to them lol. But yeah, fair point. IMO, I don't think there's a true workaround or solvability until SE seriously deals with the botting issue, but uh, that's never going to happen.

Still, other than solving the tedious problem of not being able to buy from a 99 stack, I don't really see that much improvement. I guess I don't see how this would really affect the controlled pricing - things are already low as they are for mats, and wouldn't people be able to artificially drive prices either way? I just don't see it changing much :S But I never played a game with a marketboard like WoW/EvE's, so that may be why I'm missing it lol.

[DezereDawn]

The madlads are the reason why I make money though so I have to give it to them lol. But yeah, fair point. IMO, I don't think there's a true workaround or solvability until SE seriously deals with the botting issue, but uh, that's never going to happen.

Still, other than solving the tedious problem of not being able to buy from a 99 stack, I don't really see that much improvement. I guess I don't see how this would really affect the controlled pricing - things are already low as they are for mats, and wouldn't people be able to artificially drive prices either way? I just don't see it changing much :S But I never played a game with a marketboard like WoW/EvE's, so that may be why I'm missing it lol.

WoW's system gives a "last one in, first one out" system, effectively meaning there's no reason to undercut as you'll be first in the queue when you pop it into the pile, in my experience it worked wonders for the auction house there no longer being completely run by AH scanners, bots, and addons

[BrokentoothMarch]

WoW's system gives a "last one in, first one out" system, effectively meaning there's no reason to undercut as you'll be first in the queue when you pop it into the pile, in my experience it worked wonders for the auction house there no longer being completely run by AH scanners, bots, and addons

I am very for this idea. Especially the cooldown on marketboard price adjustments. To say nothing that I'm tired of clicking seventeen different ways to do simple things to sell and see no reason why collecting my money has to pull my products from the board. There's just so many unrefined mechanics like this in this game that I have to wonder how this has gone on for so long.

[Padudu]

WoW's system gives a "last one in, first one out" system, effectively meaning there's no reason to undercut as you'll be first in the queue when you pop it into the pile, in my experience it worked wonders for the auction house there no longer being completely run by AH scanners, bots, and addons

Ahh ok! In that case I can get on board with it. That's actually a pretty neat system to have & mends the problem with the bots a little. Thanks for explaining a bit.