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    Every "solution" is shitty in its own way, including the current one

    Quote Originally Posted by Qeilos View Post
    In LoL if someone leave instantly you can vote for remake. Its basically considered a draw for everyone involved but the person who left gets it treated as a loss. You absolutely can do it without being exploited, if noone gains anything but the leaver loses then theres no exploit to be had.
    What does the other team get for voting for that? Why would they pass up a "guaranteed" win given how important they are. What do you consider "instantly"?

    If we're talking about people leaving before the match starts then that's fine and I would say that the match just ends or everyone else can leave (like in DF) with no penalty. But the problem is people leaving DURING a match, that's where the discussion is. Someone sees that their team is trash and they're going to lose, so they leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semeki View Post
    Once someone leaves you can leave yourself and not get a penalty so I dont see the probelm. Like ok yeah it's bad, unfair we dont get another player to join in but honestly if the match is already loosing with 5 deaths and crystal just in 2nd checkpoint, it's all ready a lost match. I can see why people would leave. On the other hand, if the match just started and somone leaves, the game should allow a player to queue in during match in that 30sec starting window

    In general I agree with this. Heavily penalize the person who left, lock them out of queuing for PvP for 30 minutes like DF, and once someone leaves everyone else can leave with no penalty.


    That would suck for people that get legitimately disconnected, so maybe have an escalation system:

    1st leave: Counts as a loss
    2nd leave: Lose a riser
    3rd+ Leave: Lose a riser + locked out for 30 min.

    STILL sucks for people who get disconnected though, that's the only thing. That's what makes this a difficult problem. Them not losing anything is wrong for sure though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    Every "solution" is shitty in its own way, including the current one



    What does the other team get for voting for that? Why would they pass up a "guaranteed" win given how important they are. What do you consider "instantly"?

    If we're talking about people leaving before the match starts then that's fine and I would say that the match just ends or everyone else can leave (like in DF) with no penalty. But the problem is people leaving DURING a match, that's where the discussion is. Someone sees that their team is trash and they're going to lose, so they leave.




    In general I agree with this. Heavily penalize the person who left, lock them out of queuing for PvP for 30 minutes like DF, and once someone leaves everyone else can leave with no penalty.


    That would suck for people that get legitimately disconnected, so maybe have an escalation system:

    1st leave: Counts as a loss
    2nd leave: Lose a riser
    3rd+ Leave: Lose a riser + locked out for 30 min.

    STILL sucks for people who get disconnected though, that's the only thing. That's what makes this a difficult problem. Them not losing anything is wrong for sure though.
    The other team doesn't vote on it, only the team with one player down. In LoL's case, instantly meant 'not connected in the first place' or the first three minutes of the match.
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