Worst housing system in the world

[Krotoan]

Because.. you can opt in for extra retainers..? or opt in to pay to make extra characters? What different rates? Are we playing the same game?

Edit: Legacy players? Really? That's your argument? Lol what are you a lawyer? You don't see what I meant by "practically"?

Legacy players, basic and full sub players. And this is barring exchange rates in different parts of the world.

Practically. As in , the actual process, practice, and reality of the situation, yes. People are paying different rates.

If by practically you mean something that doesn't mean practical, then you using a world poorly is not my failing. If you wanna chew on the right or wrong of that feel free, but facts are facts. The fact is not everyone who plays the game pays the same amount to do so and even without optional services this is still true.

It isn't even a hill to die on, you're just wrong.



The absolute truth is that we all PAY for access to the game in one way or another.. but that does not guarantee access to all content equally. The fact that we pay different prices is mostly moot, because OP is just complaining that they don't like how they don't have access to housing when someone else does. I can understand the frustration and hope that someday soon we have some sort of solution beyond apartments for those who want to participate in everything housing offers.

They then however go on to try and hint that we SHOULD be able to buy into housing if we have more resources which would be unfair.

All in all the sentiment I share is on the first page: The OP has a point but is presenting it in tantrum form.

[Corvus_V]

whatever

There isn't a sub you can pay for that "in practice" is removed from housing, IIRC, so it was a stupid thing to latch onto that has basically no bearing on the topic of the thread. "In practice" as in, "expected procedure" legacy players are outliers, as are for the most part, the exchange rates you're mentioning and the people those apply to; but neither of those affect the point regardless; because no one is insinuating that people who pay more or less for their sub should or shouldn't have access to this facet of the game. It was just a stupid thing he added to say "wow so youre technically wrong LOL" to get the last word in. It's a pathetic technique millions of people use to try and win arguments everywhere, constantly. It's like if someone in conversation said: "I'm sorry for not saying hello, I ran through the door because I really had to go to the bathroom!" so some idiot replies with "technically, you didn't run through the door, so you're a liar." Most people pay somewhere between, converted, 12$ and 15$ USD a month (~11USD entry fee in JP). Don't even bother to ask me for a source because its God Damn obvious.

This is why I accused you of being a lawyer, because it was totally asinine. No one cares if "he's right" because what he said was redundant in the first place. Do you get it? All of those options are opt in and again, as far as I'm aware, none of the disallow you from accessing housing.

It should guarantee access to the content; because it's not content that's meant to challenge you to "obtain it" like an Ultimate (especially because it isn't content that can be challenged, right now it is just RNG.)
None of this discussion even matters. Yoshi P groans and make faces whenever the topic of housing is brought up for discussion. There's a good chance no one at SE cares. Additionally I dont even think it matters how he presents it at this point as long as it isn't manifesting in death threats. Constructive criticism seems to have barely no effect, and all the deliberation people made on the housing system amounted to nothing, because they didn't even bother to tell us they were making 2/3 of the wards FC only, retroactively, and making all wards all lottery. If they had, people would have probably voiced some opposition and maybe they would have refined it a little bit so many of the FC housing wards wouldn't look like this. Or I suppose you could hope they would actually take some feedback.

The bottom line is again, there simply is not enough medium and large housing for demand. It should not be artificially scarce. The smalls go unpurchased because people generally are not bidding on them. People should stop eating up the lie that it's not possible to have instanced housing, as if there is no benefit to the amount of active subscribers they have and doing so would put them in the red. That is a bare-faced lie. They can do it, they don't want to because it would mean they have to reinvest some more of the time/money we pay them back into the game.

[Krotoan]

a giant rant about the original point instead of the thing they dropped into the thread on

You're OP aren't you? You forgot to swap accounts or something and THAT'S why you sound exactly like them and swooped in to try and argue with someone who brought up something you were wrong about (admittedly super tangentially)?


I already said in my own post it was moot. OP, as I said, has a point but posted it like a tantrum.




Get it out I suppose.

[SilverSp]

Legacy players, basic and full sub players. And this is barring exchange rates in different parts of the world.

Practically. As in , the actual process, practice, and reality of the situation, yes. People are paying different rates.

If by practically you mean something that doesn't mean practical, then you using a world poorly is not my failing. If you wanna chew on the right or wrong of that feel free, but facts are facts. The fact is not everyone who plays the game pays the same amount to do so and even without optional services this is still true.

It isn't even a hill to die on, you're just wrong.



The absolute truth is that we all PAY for access to the game in one way or another.. but that does not guarantee access to all content equally. The fact that we pay different prices is mostly moot, because OP is just complaining that they don't like how they don't have access to housing when someone else does. I can understand the frustration and hope that someday soon we have some sort of solution beyond apartments for those who want to participate in everything housing offers.

They then however go on to try and hint that we SHOULD be able to buy into housing if we have more resources which would be unfair.

All in all the sentiment I share is on the first page: The OP has a point but is presenting it in tantrum form.

people are using conversion rate as an excuse to not realize we are all paying to get access to the game . LOL