Worst housing system in the world

[Soma_Farkreath]

broski its just a game I'm sure not wining a lottery for a pixel house is the biggest of the worlds problems. yes it sucks everyone agrees. yes the fucked up and they are fixing it. no matter how you look at it in the long run this system is better than spending hours clicking a placard. no this is not me saying its a perfect system at all but it is an improvement. if you lost, you lost. accept it and try again next lotto.

[Ryaz]

Exaggeration? Incohesive rambling? Righteous indignation?

Checks out as typical forum post. Carrying on.

[Lieri]

In the world? try real life long term mortgage.

[Claviusnex]

In the world? try real life long term mortgage.

The two aren't really that much different. IRL if you are able to purchase a house you have to continue to pay monthly to keep it. In FFXIV if you are able to purchase a house you have to continue to pay monthly to keep it.

[DiaDeem]

And then some people wonder why devs seem to not take the forums seriously..

[Manofpassion]

In the world? Probably not. In gaming? Quite possibly. I can't think of housing in any game that is as bad as in this one. Club penguin had better housing, and I played that when I was 12.

I didn't play FFXI, but that housing system upon reading seems a lot better. Free for all? An apartment where you can actually participate in gardening? Storing items? That sounds pretty neat. I wouldn't mind that being adapted into ffxiv.

At times I think the housing in earthbound is better, and that was deliberately designed as a joke.

[RitsukoSonoda]

In the world? Probably not. In gaming? Quite possibly. I can't think of housing in any game that is as bad as in this one. Club penguin had better housing, and I played that when I was 12.

I didn't play FFXI, but that housing system upon reading seems a lot better. Free for all? An apartment where you can actually participate in gardening? Storing items? That sounds pretty neat. I wouldn't mind that being adapted into ffxiv.

At times I think the housing in earthbound is better, and that was deliberately designed as a joke.

Unless they changed it at some point after the Moogle Kupo de'aut expansion FFXI "housing" was extremely limited in fuction. First you had to purchase furniture in order to do anything which took storage space. You could use furniture to turn 1 storage space into multiple home storage spaces. But home storage spaces could only be accessed when actually inside your mog room in your home city. As for gardening. each pot took a storage space. Oh there was also a system involving room elemental balance which also came from the pieces of furniture you used. And you also had to account for what day you planted what sapling and which day you watered your plants if you wanted anything worthwhile from it. The room also had a floor space about the size of a bedroom to place this stuff in.

FFXI was also menu based so it literally was just a list of slots. I think the mogsafe started with something like 20 or 30 slots. I don't recall if mogsafes had expansion side quests to do like the gobbie bag quests for your personal inventory.

[Manofpassion]

Unless they changed it at some point after the Moogle Kupo de'aut expansion FFXI "housing" was extremely limited in fuction. First you had to purchase furniture in order to do anything which took storage space. You could use furniture to turn 1 storage space into multiple home storage spaces. But home storage spaces could only be accessed when actually inside your mog room in your home city. As for gardening. each pot took a storage space. Oh there was also a system involving room elemental balance which also came from the pieces of furniture you used. And you also had to account for what day you planted what sapling and which day you watered your plants if you wanted anything worthwhile from it. The room also had a floor space about the size of a bedroom to place this stuff in.

FFXI was also menu based so it literally was just a list of slots. I think the mogsafe started with something like 20 or 30 slots. I don't recall if mogsafes had expansion side quests to do like the gobbie bag quests for your personal inventory.

I agree that doesn't sound ideal as a long term solution, but if the apartment system in ffxiv has as much features as moghome, that will help soothe the current situation somewhat. As it stands, ffxiv apartments is just a small room like a moghome, but you have to pay for it and have less features like gardening and storage space. I don't think having to buy furniture to do anything is too bad. It is housing, so I think it is par for the course. Furniture taking up storage space does suck though.

I would like square enix to make the current apt system to have at least as much features in ffxi. I don't think that's too much of an ask, they've done it already in their own game released in 2002.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I agree that doesn't sound ideal as a long term solution, but if the apartment system in ffxiv has as much features as moghome, that will help soothe the current situation somewhat. As it stands, ffxiv apartments is just a small room like a moghome, but you have to pay for it and have less features like gardening and storage space. I don't think having to buy furniture to do anything is too bad. It is housing, so I think it is par for the course. Furniture taking up storage space does suck though.

I would like square enix to make the current apt system to have at least as much features in ffxi. I don't think that's too much of an ask, they've done it already in their own game released in 2002.

Well in terms of storage one thing to remember is FFXI didn't have retainers either

A game I played in the past Wild Star had what is probably the closest thing to the instanced housing people on the forum seem to enjoy throwing around. Everyone had access to it. And it was hardly used by players. Most simply just had quest rewards randomly tossed into them and nothing more. Which leads to the thoughts that a very sizable if not majority of the housing demand in this game is simply due to it being a limited resource.

[SpiralMask]

@OP: i'd disagree with the thread title: games like archeage made it so that while land was available, you effectively couldnt own it no matter how hard you worked--because other players with large guilds or tons of money could just roll in, camp you, take the land, and hold it for the lifetime of the server (other than the occaisional guild counter-raid for a keep or somesuch).

which i mean is sorta how old 14's housing was (except with swarms of bots), and current 14's lottery theoretically gives the advantage to large guilds in terms of buying power (everyone in the guild bidding on the same plot to pad the lottery odds), that's only for FC houses specifically.

i say theoretically because we've only had one lottery so far, and wont be having another until they roll out the corrections from the "winner 0/no lottery entrants" error to actually allocate the housesto the folks that actually won (from their recent updates on the topic).