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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    Quick reminder that his answer during the live letter was way more involved than just "Go play Ultimate" and that a solid argument isn't based on a three word reduction of a much lengthier response.

    Carry on.
    I mean the whole reply was just a long winded way to das 'no we don't get the question is about engaging content. Think of the sprouts! Can't make content difficult (again question was about engaging not diffoculty or Challenge)so go play ultimate to feel more Challenged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Vivian Rysto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    I mean the whole reply was just a long winded way to das 'no we don't get the question is about engaging content. Think of the sprouts! Can't make content difficult (again question was about engaging not diffoculty or Challenge)so go play ultimate to feel more Challenged.
    He said they did what they've done all xpacs: First tier of SVG and other content is intentionally easier. Difficulty of stuff will ramp up throughout the xpac. I guess compare Titan to Shiva in Eden?

    I enjoy healing right now, but if people have an issue with it I believe all voices should be heard. I just think poorly paraphrasing his answer creates misinformation and muddles the conversation.
    That's just what I think though.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 04-19-2022 at 01:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    He said they did what they've done all xpacs: First tier of SVG and other content is intentionally easier. Difficulty of stuff will ramp up throughout the xpac.

    I enjoy healing right now, but if people have an issue with it I believe all voices should be heard. I just think poorly paraphrasing his answer creates misinformation and muddles the conversation.
    That's just what I think though.
    Yes, and the question he gave that answer to boiled down to 'healer is boring RN, can we get more engaging job design?'

    Not more difficult. More engaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Malto Thoris
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    He said they did what they've done all xpacs: First tier of SVG and other content is intentionally easier. Difficulty of stuff will ramp up throughout the xpac. I guess compare Titan to Shiva in Eden?

    I enjoy healing right now, but if people have an issue with it I believe all voices should be heard. I just think poorly paraphrasing his answer creates misinformation and muddles the conversation.
    That's just what I think though.
    I would say thats debatable considering that the overall tier of Verse vs Gate and Verse's first three fights were easy to healing(espeically e7s compared to e3s and hell even titan's damage was more spread out where shiva just had the first move, add phase and final wyrms, shiva had minute stretches of no heavy damage even not accounting for the cutscene)

    Also allow me to ask this question then, why do tanks and dps are able to fully their first experience with savage from the get go while healers have to wait for ultimate and the second tier of savage fin 4 and 8 months respectively?
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    He said they did what they've done all xpacs: First tier of SVG and other content is intentionally easier. Difficulty of stuff will ramp up throughout the xpac. I guess compare Titan to Shiva in Eden?

    I enjoy healing right now, but if people have an issue with it I believe all voices should be heard. I just think poorly paraphrasing his answer creates misinformation and muddles the conversation.
    That's just what I think though.
    Logs from earlier savage tiers, even the final tiers of an expansion, show that healers spend more than 80% of their time casting glare/broil/malefic, so no getting later into the savage tier isn't going to magically make the job more engaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Logs from earlier savage tiers, even the final tiers of an expansion, show that healers spend more than 80% of their time casting glare/broil/malefic, so no getting later into the savage tier isn't going to magically make the job more engaging.
    there's also less "screw-up healing" to keep you engaged in higher end content as well, because as you go up in difficulty, screw-ups just kill you (and force the group to wall it) or wipe the group entirely.
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    Capybara Friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Logs from earlier savage tiers, even the final tiers of an expansion, show that healers spend more than 80% of their time casting glare/broil/malefic, so no getting later into the savage tier isn't going to magically make the job more engaging.
    80% straight up applies to ultimate too, it's crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    I mean the whole reply was just a long winded way to das 'no we don't get the question is about engaging content. Think of the sprouts! Can't make content difficult (again question was about engaging not diffoculty or Challenge)so go play ultimate to feel more Challenged.
    I miss stance dancing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrj View Post
    I miss stance dancing.
    I sure as hell don't. That crap was a nightmare when your Healer forgot to swap back and then the party died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    I sure as hell don't. That crap was a nightmare when your Healer forgot to swap back and then the party died.
    You mean just like a tank who pops no cd or a dps lower than a healer ? Can't blame stances being bad due to players being bad. Thing is, it's hard to distinguish a bad healer now, there's not much to fail.
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