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    SweetPete's Avatar
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    Princess- Princess
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Oh and while we’re at it, let’s change the name of the role from healer to support. Because that’s exactly what you people seem to want. Most of y’all don’t heal as it is and causing unnecessary party/raid wipes. So yeah let’s rename the healer role to just support with just a few unique heals for each. Kinda like in pvp.

    Let’s give every job their own unique spam heal that uses mp just like in pvp. That way the new support can have all these pretty amazing new dps tools and rotations.

    I’m sure you all would love that. Let’s do it. Get the petitions ready. Let’s do it.
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    Manofpassion's Avatar
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    R'in Hoshizora
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    Spriggan
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    Oh and while we’re at it, let’s change the name of the role from healer to support. Because that’s exactly what you people seem to want. Most of y’all don’t heal as it is and causing unnecessary party/raid wipes. So yeah let’s rename the healer role to just support with just a few unique heals for each. Kinda like in pvp.

    Let’s give every job their own unique spam heal that uses mp just like in pvp. That way the new support can have all these pretty amazing new dps tools and rotations.

    I’m sure you all would love that. Let’s do it. Get the petitions ready. Let’s do it.
    Unironically, I would love that. I always love playing support classes in games, managing buffs and the like. If we can bring back old sb astro into the support role, with a cool dps rotation, I would love to give that a try. I have honestly hoped for a support role for a long time, as it is right now, if you want a buff placed playstyle, you only have bard/dancer after the ninja change. Buff diversity would be very welcome imo.
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    Kuroh Usagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manofpassion View Post
    Unironically, I would love that. I always love playing support classes in games, managing buffs and the like. If we can bring back old sb astro into the support role, with a cool dps rotation, I would love to give that a try. I have honestly hoped for a support role for a long time, as it is right now, if you want a buff placed playstyle, you only have bard/dancer after the ninja change. Buff diversity would be very welcome imo.
    I'd be cool with that. More unique buffs too like the elemental system from Eureka with enemies having weaknesses and necessary buffs to use to bring them down.
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    Oh and while we’re at it, let’s change the name of the role from healer to support. Because that’s exactly what you people seem to want. Most of y’all don’t heal as it is and causing unnecessary party/raid wipes. So yeah let’s rename the healer role to just support with just a few unique heals for each. Kinda like in pvp.
    What game are you playing where Healers can prevent a wipe with healing? Because at least ime, it isnt FFXIV. Most unavoidable damage takes 1-2 oGCDs to heal the whole party up again. And a lot avoidable damage just kills you if you stand in it.
    In fact most wipes i see in EX+ content is the result of people eating instant death mechanics.
    And i haven't seen any wipes in normal content outside of week one, where noone knows what's going on yet.

    And ESP. During dungeons, there's little to no use for Healers depending on the Tank in question. WAR just never needs healing and half the paladins i run into start spamming clemency if they are below 80% health.
    And even DRK and GNB are usualy more than fine with just throwing them 1-3 oGCDs each trash pull.
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    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Astral Celestial
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    Brynhildr
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    Bard Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    What game are you playing where Healers can prevent a wipe with healing? Because at least ime, it isnt FFXIV. Most unavoidable damage takes 1-2 oGCDs to heal the whole party up again. And a lot avoidable damage just kills you if you stand in it.
    In fact most wipes i see in EX+ content is the result of people eating instant death mechanics.
    And i haven't seen any wipes in normal content outside of week one, where noone knows what's going on yet.

    And ESP. During dungeons, there's little to no use for Healers depending on the Tank in question. WAR just never needs healing and half the paladins i run into start spamming clemency if they are below 80% health.
    And even DRK and GNB are usualy more than fine with just throwing them 1-3 oGCDs each trash pull.
    Almost every group I get into that consists of more than 4 people healers won't heal and dps end up dying every single time. It's insane the amount of times I have died in a group when doing mechanics just not being healed due to over all alliance damage being done to the group. I died 9 times in one group I would wait til there was no big splash damage get up after raise not get healed just to die again over and over and over this is all the while I am doing all the mechanics and avoiding everything. These healers I keep getting into groups with just don't care to heal and it's frustrating because a lot of people just use it as a get Q faster scenario and could careless about the party.
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    Emilie Castan
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    Lamia
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    Oh and while we’re at it, let’s change the name of the role from healer to support. Because that’s exactly what you people seem to want. Most of y’all don’t heal as it is and causing unnecessary party/raid wipes. So yeah let’s rename the healer role to just support with just a few unique heals for each. Kinda like in pvp.

    Let’s give every job their own unique spam heal that uses mp just like in pvp. That way the new support can have all these pretty amazing new dps tools and rotations.

    I’m sure you all would love that. Let’s do it. Get the petitions ready. Let’s do it.
    Yaknow we would love to heal if they didn't make healing in this game so pathetic and predictable that theres nothing to it.
    Also do you even play a difficulty higher than normal? How is anyone dying to from lack of heals?
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    Last edited by MagicalChase; 04-20-2022 at 02:37 PM. Reason: checked publicly available information.

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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Has anyone compiled a comprehensive list of all the things the community wants Yoshi-P to do yet? Because I'd pay real money to read it.
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    Qoo Er
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    Has anyone compiled a comprehensive list of all the things the community wants Yoshi-P to do yet? Because I'd pay real money to read it.
    there is one but its kind of outdated and in my opinion bloaed with more irrelevant stuff like glamour options
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    Last edited by QooEr; 04-21-2022 at 05:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    there is one but its kind of outdated and in my opinion bloaed with more irrelevant stuff like glamour options
    I know, I need to update it, but getting motivation to do so is quite difficult when Yoshida straight up told me to go play ultimate. But a summary would not be a summary without minor issues as well as major ones
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Glamour is also one imporant piece while we're at it. They just keep releasing dresses with frills and tidbits and whatnot. The latest tomestones 590 gear had a plated chest but it still had to be a dress in the end.
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