So housing issues get addressed by Yoshi-P immediately, but Hrothgar...?

[Jeeqbit]

Housing is being immediately addressed because it's a major and urgent bug.

Hrothgar is not being immediately addressed because it's not a bug and it is working as intended.

Yoshi-P did address it in the patch note reading before we could even login and explained that it would take a long time to make the ears appear if that's what everyone wants and that it will reduce amount of hair styles they can do overall.

[BingleNingle]

Hey at least you guys got someone talking to you in your thread. The healer threads have been going on for ages and not a word.

You'll get your fix.

[Jeeqbit]

Hey at least you guys got someone talking to you in your thread. The healer threads have been going on for ages and not a word.

You'll get your fix.

Questions on healers have been answered, the answers just aren't what people on these forums want to hear.

[Jason_Ashford]

I didn't claim you were stamping your feet. I said that Yoshi did addresss it, and asked for people's opinions.

You can provide that opinion respectfully to Yoshi through the forums, or you can try to fight me, taking your frustrations out. The second option isn't the productive one. Especially as I have always hoped (and am strongly on record of) my dear, dear Hroth friends get all their dreams and the
hair they desire.

Arguing and saying irrelevent stuff isn't helpful.

Yoshi admitted he messed up and was taken by surprise, and now asks. So respectfully tell yoshi what you want. Don't lash out at me.

there have been a few players who have been white knighting for the 14 team pretty hard lately and almost all of them have accused the hrothgar players of being whiny and entitled.

We hrothgar players have been giving our opinions for years, and Yoshi-P hadn't deigned to give us any consideration or speak to us regarding hrothgar hairstyles until players started actively getting upset and were outraged by what he offered. So to see him ignore the outrage from Hrothgar players for the 2 weeks after the Live Letter and then express how shocked he is when it gets pushed to live with even more outrage is incredibly insulting and feels very disingenuous. It makes it feel so much worse when he immediately jumped to give 2 separate apologies regarding the housing lottery situation within 2 days of the issue popping up.

He says he is going to listen to our feedback, but he has pointedly ignored the hrothgar community up to this point, so i don't think anyone can blame me for feeling skeptical about it.

[NanaWiloh]

The dev team just needs to bite the bullet and make some custom hairs for the hroth race. Its that or make a completely new custom head that work with the current hair styles.

[Nethereal]

*Helpful Information*

Thanks.

I don't particularly keep up with the hrothgar threads but I feel like this whole issue came about when Yoshi decided to cut corners/allow lower quality products to be released.
If you have a market for people who want lower quality products then you should make people aware that's who you're selling it to I.E. newly released hrothgar hair.
Because while the newly released hairs are simply a bad pick(seriously whoever picks these hairstyles, the viera ones were awful too) I can see there being people who are fine with their ears missing.

And if he couldn't make produce a product at regular or above average quality then he should've moved onto a different product(race-specific hair) instead that could be produced at acceptable levels of quality and then addressed the issue.
Unilaterally deciding to release a lower quality product is of course going to make a lot of people angry, especially after so many years have gone by with no communication at all other than: It's complicated. When modders have shown it isn't.
Allowing issues like this to fester, while taking the inferior road, all while being outdone by modders is just a recipe for disappointment.

Instead what he should have done is released race-specific hair(one group of a people would've loved it, one would be mildly upset) and simply said: "Hey we can get you your hair from the regular races, but it'll look like this. Do you still want this?"

[Jason_Ashford]

Housing is being immediately addressed because it's a major and urgent bug.

Hrothgar is not being immediately addressed because it's not a bug and it is working as intended.

Yoshi-P did address it in the patch note reading before we could even login and explained that it would take a long time to make the ears appear if that's what everyone wants and that it will reduce amount of hair styles they can do overall.

Yoshi-P has had THREE YEARS to come up with a solution to hairstyle problems that don't involve chopping off our ears to streaming the addition of shared hairstyles that literally no hrothgar player asked for. We have asked for years to get the 8 racial hairstyles that were added in 5.0 and have them be usable across all 4 faces at the Aesthetician. Instead we got the same selection of hairstyles that they gave to Veira despite the fact that nearly all of them look extremely bad on Hrothgar ( i mean have you SEEN the 2B hair? our skull looks like a damn hairy peanut).

[Nethereal]

Questions on healers have been answered, the answers just aren't what people on these forums want to hear.

"Go do ultimate."

Isn't a real answer.

[NanaWiloh]

"Go do ultimate."

Isn't a real answer.

I second this I run strictly DF. Only time I feel like a real healer is when people are falling over themselves. I dont want savage or ultimate level healing in DF. Just something better then what we got now.

[myahele]

there have been a few players who have been white knighting for the 14 team pretty hard lately and almost all of them have accused the hrothgar players of being whiny and entitled.

We hrothgar players have been giving our opinions for years, and Yoshi-P hadn't deigned to give us any consideration or speak to us regarding hrothgar hairstyles until players started actively getting upset and were outraged by what he offered. So to see him ignore the outrage from Hrothgar players for the 2 weeks after the Live Letter and then express how shocked he is when it gets pushed to live with even more outrage is incredibly insulting and feels very disingenuous. It makes it feel so much worse when he immediately jumped to give 2 separate apologies regarding the housing lottery situation within 2 days of the issue popping up.

He says he is going to listen to our feedback, but he has pointedly ignored the hrothgar community up to this point, so i don't think anyone can blame me for feeling skeptical about it.

I wonder where has he been getting his feedback from? I know many Hrothgar players wanted them to at least unlock the other Hrothgar hairstyles for the other faces. While I commend them for finally allowing Hrothgar the ability switch between the 2 hairstyles of a face, I am left wondering why they chose the those? Is it because they already made it available to male Viera?