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  1. #71
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    Syln's Avatar
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    Saya Finwel
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Frankly i tried to play again last week and the game is so lack luster in term of finition i just couldn't bear with it.

    Outdated casting FX not even consistent with the clunky animation, it look awfull most of the time you do anything.

    Honourable mention for the ugly priest bubble FX that survive for 17 years

    For me this kind of "detail" show how the dev team care about their game.
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  2. #72
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milus View Post
    What is wow?
    Baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no more
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  3. #73
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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Maybe not WoW, but I would drop XIV in a heartbeat and go back to XI if that got itself a reboot of sorts, even just a graphical upgrade and maybe a hotbar system. Idc what ppl say (most of which complain yet have never even played XI) but XI was leaps and bounds better in many many ways. It was simply just too slow and too difficult for many ppl, esp when it comes to XIV players.

    That being said I have been tempted to try out WoW since I have never really given it a good go and due to the state and trajectory XIV is moving in. It will be interesting to see what happens with it now that Blizz had such a gigantic shake up.
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  4. #74
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcoReck View Post
    Doesn't WoW already have housing? Personally, WoW is still ass backwards and has race/alignment-specific classes which is enough for me to not want to play, besides that it is massively graphically outdated.
    Graphics style is on purpose, not outdated.

    It's lined up to look a lot like the RTS games, which were in themselves, very cartoony. it was a deliberate design choice.

    There are no more alignment specific classes. There are still race restrictions but honestly, they're not bad. I've seen worse.

    And no, it does not have housing. it's got shitty garrisons, which are more like a functioning fort, but not anything close to personal, customizable, housing.

    I might go check it out at the launch of the new expansion as I always do, but I won't count on it as being a guarantee.
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  5. #75
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Even if you bought me all of the expansions I'm behind on, paid my sub, and bought me a new PC to play it on, I still wouldn't be interested in going back to WoW, housing or no.

    Half curious if my characters even still exist, come to think of it. How long does Blizzard retain them once you stop paying? I'd check but I don't even remember what server I was on.
    They retain them forever, but you may have been flagged for a rename, as they do that occasionally to inactives.
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  6. #76
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    Tahbitha's Avatar
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    Tahbitha El'wynn
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    WoW was once a great game. It is no longer. WoW's design priorities are pretty clearly focused on competitive gaming and e-sports in general. Yes, there is some casual content but it is so slapdash and lazy, it's obviously an afterthought only there to keep some casual subscriptions going and boost up those sweet sweet MAU numbers.

    Housing, at least the type of housing that folks want, is pretty much the opposite of competitive content, and also will require a massive effort to implement properly. Given the current development team, and Activision-Blizzard's clear design priorities... Well, let's just say that if Housing does get implemented for the next expansion, it will almost certainly be tied to player power in some fashion. The folks that want it will hate that, and the competitive/M+ types will hate it too since they'll feel compelled to engage in it. So housing will end up angering practically everyone.

    WoW is surviving right now on the hopelessly addicted. I'm not saying that everyone who plays is addicted but most are.

    So to answer the question asked in the thread... no. Unless there's a massive shakeup in the development team. Which I don't see happening.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    ESO and Wildstar housing are/were some of the best MMO housing I've experienced.

    I have to add City of Heroes/Villains as well.
    Although it wasn't really houses, but headquarters for your Super Hero/Villain guilds you could build rooms, corridors and add stuff to them.
    And they also acted as playgrounds for guild vs guild fights where one invaded and the others had to defend it.
    Was really fun and the bases could look quite different from one another.
    I prefer Everquest 2's housing and I feel a lot of people here would love it.

    People would use existing items to build structures, like turning bookcases around and making walls or partitions, I made aquariums out of watery mirrors and pillars. You could full XYZ rotate and levitate objects as well as scale their size up when placing them. Placing was more precise, there were no stupid restrictions that you had to glitch around. It was bloody PERFECT.

    Too bad the rest of the game is kinda bad now. I looked into getting back into it but they fully embraced the obnoxious f2p system and combat is overly complicated and I just couldn't after 12 years off. Sad, I met my husband there almost 18 years ago now.
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  8. #78
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    I rly think people severely overestimate how many people care about the housing stuff.
    It's cool bonus content but I don't think it's some kind of a deciding factor for all that many people, and I also don't think it's why people left WoW.

    Also.
    If WoW added housing they'd probably add some kind of a grind to it lol.
    I just imagine them adding it and tying it to some convoluted and tedious system or new Covenant.
    If I saw that they were adding housing the first thing that would enter my mind is '' what's the catch '', I also just think that the devs approach the game very differently than the FFXIV devs.
    FFXIV has more of an emphasis on the RP side and activities outside the game being a combat simulator.
    WoW is more about excuses to get to go out and kill stuff.
    It's designed for much shorter attention spans.
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  9. #79
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahbitha View Post
    WoW was once a great game. It is no longer. WoW's design priorities are pretty clearly focused on competitive gaming and e-sports in general. Yes, there is some casual content but it is so slapdash and lazy, it's obviously an afterthought only there to keep some casual subscriptions going and boost up those sweet sweet MAU numbers.
    Not only competitive gaming but also for players, who do not care about the game.

    Asmongold has made a reaction video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpl_3BDihE

    He said, that the game has no PvP vendors because Blizzard is afraid, that the players would not find them etc. This video is worth watching about the current state of the game.


    Cheers
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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 04-19-2022 at 12:25 AM.

  10. #80
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Not only competitive gaming but also for players, who do not care about the game.

    Asmongold has made a reaction video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpl_3BDihE

    He said, that the game has no PvP vendors because Blizzard is afraid, that the players would not find them etc. This video is worth watching about the current state of the game.


    Cheers
    That was a BS excuse.

    Real reason is that if they gave you vendors you'd have something to work towards that's guaranteed eventually rather than RNG and the game thrives on RNG. They want you to keep playing for the chance at getting what you need or want.
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