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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VincentH View Post
    SCH got Energy Drain and SAM got Hagakure back after they took it off at some point. So yeah i do believe they can give us Kaiten back.
    yes thats one skill they got back in 5.05
    but people are asking for full on reversion of the job which is different
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    Ryuuko Souha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    yes thats one skill they got back in 5.05
    but people are asking for full on reversion of the job which is different
    It's not really any different and the majority of the changes are potency shifts which are laughably easy to do, with "one skill" removed as you want to state. All communities are in sync and the opinions are the same no matter what language the feedback is in. This is different from before in that opinions were more mixed on previous adjustments, including Samurai ones.

    I liked the depth Hagakure gameplay added in it's original incarnation, but I understood why it had to be removed because it was not easy to get a hang of for a lot of players. But it also created a problem in not allowing us to reset our rotation, so it was added back because it was required for our core identity to function, but in a way where it isn't mandatory to use.

    As it is now we're basically just a Monk with a toothpick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxus View Post
    It's not really any different and the majority of the changes are potency shifts which are laughably easy to do, with "one skill" removed as you want to state. All communities are in sync and the opinions are the same no matter what language the feedback is in. This is different from before in that opinions were more mixed on previous adjustments, including Samurai ones.

    I liked the depth Hagakure gameplay added in it's original incarnation, but I understood why it had to be removed because it was not easy to get a hang of for a lot of players. But it also created a problem in not allowing us to reset our rotation, so it was added back because it was required for our core identity to function, but in a way where it isn't mandatory to use.

    As it is now we're basically just a Monk with a toothpick.
    yeah they also reworked all the iajutsu they have alot of stuff to revert and when i meant "one skill" its all they had to return not the entire Kit like what people are asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    yeah they also reworked all the iajutsu they have alot of stuff to revert and when i meant "one skill" its all they had to return not the entire Kit like what people are asking.
    Nothing was "reworked" except Tenka Goken aoe, which whatever if they want to keep that in place for the time being. Everything else was just potency adjustments. It's really not that difficult to adjust potencies. They do it practically every patch.

    Oh by "rework" I bet you mean the crit thing. OK. Change whatever database value has crit set to 1 and change it back to whatever the player's crit chance is. I can't imagine it's much more difficult than potency.
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    Last edited by YukiB; 04-18-2022 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    yeah they also reworked all the iajutsu they have alot of stuff to revert and when i meant "one skill" its all they had to return not the entire Kit like what people are asking.
    What? Please stop talking like you know what you're talking about. YukiB commented so I'll refrain from further comments.
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