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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
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    Excuse-me but I gave an example where the result was manipulated to make another person win instead of the real winner, demonstrating in particular why adding another ghost participant rig the lottery.

    You still consider it fair and not rigged, fine, that's your opinion.

    The scam part is the prejudice of all the entrant of the lottery having their wining range reduced, significantly, sometimes even up to 50% of their winning range disappearing.

    I disagree when you say it is not a scam and is just an error, a mistake. They are advertising and selling a feature in the game for real money (subscription fees). And when you want to redeem this feature and actually try it out, you get kicked by the system because of a programming error? That is not even audible.

    Yes I would not have asked to see their code if it worked properly first try but hey, that how life work. You give people their chances untill they screw up. At that point you hold them accountable for their screw up and ask to see what happened so that it never happens again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Regardless of the number of bidders..why would you have the system picking a number between 0-100? Why not go with a more straight forward 'if there are 19 bidders, pick a number between 1 & 19?'.

    We have no idea how they've programmed any of this, so to call it a scam is a stretch. A massive SNAFU? Sure! But a scam....?
    That's because RNG engines basically all roll a floating point number between 0 and 1. Then the developers turns this number into something useful for them. Meaning they will do maths with the number. And if the maths is wrong, the fairness is affected. For instance let us draw a number between 0 and 1.
    Then we multiply it by 100 (because maybe there cannot be more than 100 bidders on a plot? Just for the example)
    Then you want to adjust it to the number of bidders : there are 45 bidders, you just mod the number by 45?
    That means that people with ticket 1 to 10 are more likely to have their ticket drawn (3 chances/100) whereas all the other one only have 2 chances/100 to have their ticket drawn.
    Correctly rolling rng numbers fairly is not easy and is an ongoing research area.

    I don't know how it's coded maybe they did ceil(rng_number * nb_bidders), maybe something else entirely: I don't care. What I care is whether their system is fair.
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    Last edited by dutiona; 04-17-2022 at 07:02 PM.

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