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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Probably because people begged and cried that they wanted to be able to own personal homes.
    Actually It was primarily because of unused assets. When they were FC only most of the wards on my world were sparsely populated. However it wasn't just the FC only requirement that caused it. Back then the prices were such that FC's often struggled to buy anything larger than a small plot.

    Fast forward to now with gil inflation because the game generates far more gil than it takes out of circulation via fees and NPC transactions, Individual players can easily afford the price of a home themselves. Many of these players created shell FC's because they want to try using airship/submarine voyages and company workshop crafts for their own personal profit and spammed all over this forum for years that their "FC" needs a house.

    It is possible when they made the decision for the ward split that they simply looked at the overall number of FC's on each world and didn't filter to only show ones that met requirements to actually buy a plot. Or they did it intentionally to try and get these tiny shell/private FC's to dissolve and try to get ppl to actually make friends...
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    Evie Serenity
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I really hope these island sanctuaries are a type of instanced housing. I also want to respond to all the people saying housing was only meant for fc, if that were true why have housing items especially outdoor ones, for holiday events? Even if it initially was for FC only, it isn’t now. I have a small house I’m sharing storage with my RL family members because they only have fc rooms and apartments. There is no outdoor storage for apartments or fc rooms.

    Instanced housing needs to happen. It’s the real fair system, not a lottery. The problem is as long as people have houses they will stay subbed, instanced housing means if you unsub you wont lose your house. Im starting to wonder if that’s the real reason they don’t add instanced housing. I also play ESO and it definitely has way better housing than ffxiv.
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    M'telihgo Feilyon
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Actually It was primarily because of unused assets. When they were FC only most of the wards on my world were sparsely populated. However it wasn't just the FC only requirement that caused it. Back then the prices were such that FC's often struggled to buy anything larger than a small plot.

    Fast forward to now with gil inflation because the game generates far more gil than it takes out of circulation via fees and NPC transactions, Individual players can easily afford the price of a home themselves. Many of these players created shell FC's because they want to try using airship/submarine voyages and company workshop crafts for their own personal profit and spammed all over this forum for years that their "FC" needs a house.

    It is possible when they made the decision for the ward split that they simply looked at the overall number of FC's on each world and didn't filter to only show ones that met requirements to actually buy a plot. Or they did it intentionally to try and get these tiny shell/private FC's to dissolve and try to get ppl to actually make friends...
    Houses used to cost like 4x as much where a large house on certain servers was 200,000,000 gil. That with the lower rate of gil generation made it that housing was very rare.
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    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Yes, because the housing system was clearly never intended for everyone to have one and its original intent was definitely meant for FC's only.
    And as a result many players that forego being in a FC and create their own for the sake of getting a house.

    What is accomplished? Nothing. Personal housing still ends up existing under the thin veneer of FC.

    How many FCs with a house currently give all their members free access to all the features that come with FC housing? I'd be surprised if it's more than 10%. The housing features are generally reserved for the officers, sometimes for selfish reasons and sometimes for legitimate ones. Right back to it may as well be personal housing.

    Even with all the cries of "not even my FC can get a house", more than 50% of available plots had zero entries on most worlds. Why?

    Because players want personal housing, not FC housing. The demand for FC housing just is not there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    Houses used to cost like 4x as much where a large house on certain servers was 200,000,000 gil. That with the lower rate of gil generation made it that housing was very rare.
    That price was an attempt to bleed legacy gil from the world economies.
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    Raim Surion
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    They have said countless times due to server restrictions they can't just make infinite instanced housing. Calling them liars isn't going to help. Island Sanctuary won't be nearly as detailed as actual housing, nor should it because then why have housing wards?
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    They have said countless times due to server restrictions they can't just make infinite instanced housing. Calling them liars isn't going to help. Island Sanctuary won't be nearly as detailed as actual housing, nor should it because then why have housing wards?
    Its not like everybody would be sitting in their house instances all the time. If you go into some ward and enter random houses there is nobody here. I guess only the exteriors still have to be kept in memory if at least single person is in the ward somewhere outside, if their implementation already has the empty house interiors loaded its dumb.
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    I have nothing else to do in game but housing. I bid, I lost. I unsub I guess.
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    Dreaming Void
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    White Mage Lv 82
    Housing in MMOs is stupid. Limited housing in MMOs is absurd. 75% being reserved for FCs is bullshit. Not my thing and I really don't care, but I would never design a system like this, it's really bad.
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    I really hope these island sanctuaries are a type of instanced housing. I also want to respond to all the people saying housing was only meant for fc, if that were true why have housing items especially outdoor ones, for holiday events? Even if it initially was for FC only, it isn’t now. I have a small house I’m sharing storage with my RL family members because they only have fc rooms and apartments. There is no outdoor storage for apartments or fc rooms.

    Instanced housing needs to happen. It’s the real fair system, not a lottery. The problem is as long as people have houses they will stay subbed, instanced housing means if you unsub you wont lose your house. Im starting to wonder if that’s the real reason they don’t add instanced housing. I also play ESO and it definitely has way better housing than ffxiv.
    I have a house in ESO but found getting furniture to suck. Getting gold was really, really annoying.

    I preferred EQ2's houses. The instance doesn't spin up til someone opens the door. The item placement was superior. I had multiple mansions, all had balconies for outdoor furnishings. Didn't need a yard.

    They have the system in place, why they can't add instanced, gated houses I'll never know. The neighborhood feel is overrated when you never see your neighbors.
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    Vel Kallor
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    It is a code error.

    it has been noted as a major problem

    it will be fixed.

    PATIENCE.
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