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  1. #201
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    Flaws's Avatar
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    Flaws Replicant
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    And the "new" Garo set has GNB using the same armor as not any of the unique tank/melee sets, but as the ranged one.

    The glamour restrictions quite simply exist for nothing... The very reasons for it's existence is constantly ignored, except for us the players.
    Yes and also speaking of the Garo gear (a bit off-topic), I would like to see the gender lock on those removed (as well as every other piece of gear in the game possible). I think that the Makai Vanguard's Battlegarb is one of the best armor sets for GNB and the female variant looks nothing like it or like anything a GNB would wear imo. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to wear most of the gender locked armor sets on the opposite gender considering we recently got things like the maid outfit unlocked for both genders.
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  2. #202
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    Droxybrobotnik's Avatar
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    Cute Milk'itkatt
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I feel like the point of gear aesthethically is to give classes visual identity, I mean, imagine a white mage running around in tank armor.
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  3. #203
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    Lily Sky
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Siddiax View Post
    As of lately, Square have definitely changed their "tanks wear plate and healers wear dresses" way of thinking when designing gear. With more jobs being released and armor sets being varied in designs, the line that separates armor types has been blurred. There's no longer reasons for jobs to not be able to glamour (not equip, just GLAMOUR) a basically identical set to theirs just because they're a different role. Now, of course, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be exceptions - artifact gear or weapons should be off-limits.

    To expand on my point, we have sets like the ones from the first two Nier raids, which are almost identical - difference between the Fending, Maiming and Striking sets being how much you rolled your sleeves... or The Law's Order set of Scouting that is literally a plate armor and yet it's a Ninja set. The Asphodelos armor sets are similar - this time, all of them share a robe-like design and the Fending set doesn't have a single piece of metal on it. Another example is the Astronomy tomestones armor, where the Casting and Scouting sets share the same appearance. Finally, there's also multiple cases where I didn't like a set's gloves or boots, but the ones from a different role would fit perfectly. Why should we not have more options when it comes to glamour ?

    Especially with the amounts of cross-class gear being released, and people being able to look like a neon frog or a clown, I don't see how a Dragoon wearing a Fending set would break anyone's immersion.

    tl;dr - Remove role restrictions but just for glamour.
    agree the lore friendly/class visual indentity restriction is no longer an excuse
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  4. #204
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I don't agree with this as it takes away class fantasy. Job specific sets should not be glamoured onto other jobs.
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  5. #205
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    Lich
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Droxybrobotnik View Post
    I feel like the point of gear aesthethically is to give classes visual identity, I mean, imagine a white mage running around in tank armor.
    i dont have to, they already can.
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  6. #206
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    Demetri_Delethorn's Avatar
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    Limited Edition
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    I don't agree with this as it takes away class fantasy. Job specific sets should not be glamoured onto other jobs.
    This is a meme, right?
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    Why do people come up with arbitrary and fake complaints to fuel problems that don't exist?

  7. #207
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Droxybrobotnik View Post
    I feel like the point of gear aesthethically is to give classes visual identity, I mean, imagine a white mage running around in tank armor.
    FFXI lets their healers wear heavy plate

    Technically any job can glamour any armor in XI as long as you've reached the correct level on the original job, and we have no trouble knowing who's who and what's what there. If they wanted to keep Artifact gear job-locked fine, but after all these years and the dilution of gear models the class identity thing holds no water.
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  8. #208
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    This is a meme, right?
    I don't know what a meme is.
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  9. #209
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Oh my god, for so long I've wanted to wear this chest piece on my Scholar.
    Just another reason why healers feel like an afterthought: The caster armor sets have SO much more thought put into them than the healer armor sets.
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  10. #210
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Droxybrobotnik View Post
    I feel like the point of gear aesthethically is to give classes visual identity, I mean, imagine a white mage running around in tank armor.
    Right... Visual identity. Let me show you the villains of both FFIV and V, one being a sorcerer and another a warlock, aka mages.




    To be frank a mage running around in armor looks awesome.
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