What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Caurcas]

And Venat kicked Emet's puppy as well!

[Vahlnir]

And Venat kicked Emet's puppy as well!

Clearly she was a Mentor. That makes it even worse.

But...yeah. I do understand the general dislike for Venat. Perhaps what separates me from those who dislike her is that I saw how things unfolded differently than some.

[Skyborne]

Clearly she was a Mentor. That makes it even worse.

But...yeah. I do understand the general dislike for Venat. Perhaps what separates me from those who dislike her is that I saw how things unfolded differently than some.

Yes, some have expressed feeling a huge disconnect/dissonance between their own views and the "correct" view being pushed by the writers and developers, to the point where it destroyed any faith in the storytelling. Not just the handling of that one character, but how other story elements were thrown under the bus. Much like how your own faith was blown up by the entire catman hair situation and the huge disconnect there. One difference is that criticizing the gameplay and other elements is a little more acceptable than the story, which is held aloft as the main advertising point and "strength" of the game and has a sort of sacred cow status.

Between this and the reaction to some other things, maybe I should play my own game of "who will the devs anger next?" Bets? It's just getting funnier and funnier at this point.

[Lucida3b]

Yes, some have expressed feeling a huge disconnect/dissonance between their own views and the "correct" view being pushed by the writers and developers, to the point where it destroyed any faith in the storytelling. Not just the handling of that one character, but how other story elements were thrown under the bus. Much like how your own faith was blown up by the entire catman hair situation and the huge disconnect there. One difference is that criticizing the gameplay and other elements is a little more acceptable than the story, which is held aloft as the main advertising point and "strength" of the game and has a sort of sacred cow status.

Between this and the reaction to some other things, maybe I should play my own game of "who will the devs anger next?" Bets? It's just getting funnier and funnier at this point.

The biggest issue is that they pushed it being correct in a very 'world' way, like they set new rules into the story and world to FORCE a conclusion. Instead of making a conclusion be part of a personal character or group of characters. Meanwhile you could force a conclusion depending on the idea or theme but if it requires you to justify something many people find morally abhorrent you get into this situation. Even outside of ignoring the bad writing or convenient ignoring of past lore to justify venat to you

As i've said before, the difference between this and stormblood is that stormblood is just boring, elpis/venat actively retroactively fucks over tons of lore. And in all likelihood i cant imagine venat opinions getting better due to the fact that over time the new expansion honeymoon will end and thus more people will criticize her

[Vahlnir]

Yes, some have expressed feeling a huge disconnect/dissonance between their own views and the "correct" view being pushed by the writers and developers, to the point where it destroyed any faith in the storytelling. Not just the handling of that one character, but how other story elements were thrown under the bus. Much like how your own faith was blown up by the entire catman hair situation and the huge disconnect there. One difference is that criticizing the gameplay and other elements is a little more acceptable than the story, which is held aloft as the main advertising point and "strength" of the game and has a sort of sacred cow status.

Between this and the reaction to some other things, maybe I should play my own game of "who will the devs anger next?" Bets? It's just getting funnier and funnier at this point.

That's fair. Believe me, I get it, even if I might not agree with everything that is being said here.