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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by LukaRoselia View Post
    An MMO promoting solo play is the opposite of good. This game is going to end up like WoW where a good chunk of the playerbase will become anti social mutes because they don't need anyone for anything. We will see an influx of players across all roles that can barely play their jobs, only pull two mobs at a time and can't function in endgame content when they have to join up with other players. I've never understood the concept of wanting to play an online game but not wanting any social interaction whatsoever. The logic is just lost on me. Other than oh muh god I need to jump on the bandwagon game of the month so I can look cool and relevant.

    Sorry if that comes across as toxic but you wouldn't go to an RTS game or shooter and whine for the devs too make it turn based because your reaction times are too slow would you? It's like going to a football match and complaining to the club that you don't like football and asking them to convert to a rugby team instead. Again something you wouldn't do. You'd acknowledge that you tried the genre and it just isn't for you.

    People being "social" only because they NEED other people is not really a good thing to me.
    I'd rather people be social for the sake of being social, which is something a portion of the playerbase seems to actively discourage with their rush mentality.

    If you are so bothered by someone pulling only one pack of mobs at a time to make a condescending comment about it you are probably one of those people that is in a rush to begin with

    Its also ridiculous to think that the people that "cant function in endgame content" are the people that would use duty support while leveling. The MSQ stuff was never going to teach you that anyway.
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    Last edited by Broken_Wind; 04-15-2022 at 09:58 AM.

  2. #72
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    I swear when i read how obnoxious some "pro social experience" answer are, no wonder a lot of people rather play solo @_@.

    As for me i play solo because i can :

    1) Get every gears/minions/scrolls/whatever that drop.
    2) Go afk whenever i feel like it.

    Then again i do enjoy playing with peoples from time to time, even more the first day of a patch release, more good vibes and doing alliance raid with an alliance of first timer is most of the time hilarious.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    I don't buy the subscription being a large deterrent to the game nowadays, everyone has subscriptions to something whether it's food delivery, Spotify, heck they might even be throwing coins at an F2P game. People love their cosmetics. Not everyone subs for infinite time, that content lul period also are people who unsub and may just come back in a year kind of thing.

    You have to look at it from the business development standpoint that they got a nice slice of the the MMO players that like playing with others. Now it's trying to grow the game more and scoop up those whom might have been intimiated about the MMO aspect and may want to solo their way up, it's likely they become more addicted to group play over time too.
    I mean, you can go ahead and not buy it. It doesn't make it true. Especially since your logic only works if someone decides to blot out what "Market Focus" means. Grandma had a subscription to Spotify. Therefore is she a potential to play XIV? Trust me. The answer is no.

    So from a business standpoint: What?
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  4. #74
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    Subscriptions may be a very slight deterrent to attracting new people, but they are a key to retain people

    It allows a reliable, steady flow of income for a developer. This way they don't have to provide players with frequent reminders of cash shop, or worse, reminders that game play would be a lot better if you had a subscription.

    What good is getting people to try your game if they see its another f2p, player unfriendly model as *every* single one is. Even GW2, which is the best of the subless games (although its buy to play), struggles with this.

    Square Enix does toe the line with some bs monetization (retainers, Im looking at you), but I love that the cash shop doesnt exist in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken_Wind View Post
    but I love that the cash shop doesnt exist in game.
    Interact with an inn bed
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    ~sigh~

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    We are archenemies. Our worldview and philosophy is completely opposite. We should breed and see what kind of child we produce.
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    I also wonder if a large part of the reason for the trusts being added to MSQ stuff is that with 7.0 we will see a reset of sorts where MSQ is no longer required to start the new expansion as its no longer part of a multi expansion story arc

    that way they dont have to be concerned with less people around in that content to queue with.
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    Someone tel these homies April fools was weeks ago
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    Eh, personally, I have no idea why someone would choose to play an MMORPG as a single player game. I do stuff on my own quite often, especially since I have yet to find a static for raiding and stuff, but I mean, until the new PvP came out, my solo experience was leaving my char in Limsa while I watched Mr Robot on my second monitor... PvP is a hell of a lot more fun with friends than with randoms that exclusively focus the enemy tanks for no reason whatsoever, Raiding is a hell of a lot more fun with friends than with inconsistent pugs that may leave at any second, Trusts take twice as long as a normal group, etc.

    But yeah, I don't know, at least for me MMORPGs feel very shallow when I am by myself.
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    Last edited by Hysorn; 04-15-2022 at 01:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysorn View Post
    Eh, personally, I have no idea why someone would choose to play an MMORPG as a single player game. I do stuff on my own quite often, especially since I have yet to find a static for raiding and stuff, but I mean, until the new PvP came out, my solo experience was leaving my char in Limsa while I watched Mr Robot on my second monitor... PvP is a hell of a lot more fun with friends than with randoms that exclusively focus the enemy tanks for no reason whatsoever, Raiding is a hell of a lot more fun with friends than with inconsistent pugs that may leave at any second, Trusts take twice as long as a normal group, etc.

    But yeah, I don't know, at least for me MMORPGs feel very shallow when I am by myself.
    Going to drop a little spoiler for you boss, at the very least the people arguing for OP in this thread, they’re not doing either pvp or raiding.
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