About the new 24 Man Alliance Raid.

[Broken_Wind]

I just don’t want the hoards of players crying that stuff is too hard either though.

Alliance Raids are the one area of FFXIV where I see standard MMORPG toxicity on a somewhat regular basis
The problem isn't with content being too hard, its with people not being able to deal with wipes.
People generally lack the patience to explain and coach and instead lash out

This is so much less common in other areas of the game thankfully

But its a very tough thing to balance.
Hard content invites toxicity
Large group content invites toxicity
Hard alliance raids therefore really make this an issue

[Ath192]

Alliance Raids are the one area of FFXIV where I see standard MMORPG toxicity on a somewhat regular basis
The problem isn't with content being too hard, its with people not being able to deal with wipes.
People generally lack the patience to explain and coach and instead lash out

This is so much less common in other areas of the game thankfully

But its a very tough thing to balance.
Hard content invites toxicity
Large group content invites toxicity
Hard alliance raids therefore really make this an issue

I agree with all you said. That being said, I still want alliance raids on the harder side. They are the end game content for casuals so it stands to reason it should present a challenge a casual player should be able to overcome. And I have no doubts both are true for the moment, it is a decent challenge, and surely they can overcome it because its not too crazy.

This is where the community needs to decide the environment they want to foster and where we do our part. Don't be toxic yourself and if you see someone being overly toxic report them. They do ban people often and well, its a paid sub game so it hurts. I say hit em where it hurts because we shouldn't let the bad side of this community take our fun away from us.

[Syln]

Alliance Raids are the one area of FFXIV where I see standard MMORPG toxicity on a somewhat regular basis
The problem isn't with content being too hard, its with people not being able to deal with wipes.
People generally lack the patience to explain and coach and instead lash out

This is so much less common in other areas of the game thankfully

But its a very tough thing to balance.
Hard content invites toxicity
Large group content invites toxicity
Hard alliance raids therefore really make this an issue

Frankly i see that as an opportunity to add a few lines on my blacklist. It's better to spot toxic people without being their target as it would be on smaller scale content.

Then again it's kind of rare that i come across agressive or passive agressive people in this game, it does happen but it's rare.