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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Unfortunately, I do not agree with you on this as you tend to shift all blames on SE when we as players also contribute to this issue.
    For a fact, majority of players do not care about Housing because decoration is not everyone cup of tea.
    Ultimately, the blame does lie with SE because the system is one of SE's design. The player contribution to the problem is very small because it's only a very small number of players exploiting the loopholes in the system for personal gain. Most are trying to engage with the system as intended.

    Where are you getting this "fact" that the majority of players do not care about housing? Have you individually polled every single player to get this information?

    Right now, the system doesn't even accommodate the minority when you take into account how the available plots are open equally to FCs and individuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unkara View Post
    i think many forget that all those mutli boxer will bid with every char they have, at the same and at all open plots, their chance to get the housing plot via lottery are way higher
    they will only lose a little more gil if they win multiple plots

    the biggest problem is an will be all those mutliboxer player and mutli account/alt users that hoard whole districts with two player FCs ..........
    this screens are from Spriggan - Chaos
    and district 20 came after the limit with 1 privat and 1 FC house per account ................
    While the new system doesn't cut out RMT and multiple house owners, it's not going to be as easy to acquire multiple plots going forward as you make it sound.

    The RNG of the lottery itself is going to be a big hindrance, especially as the initial supply of houses dry up and we're down to a few plots available per lottery period. Having 50 entries isn't much advantage if you're competing against 1000 others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nepentha View Post
    Sigh.

    It's a difficult comparison to make, because at the time those houses were purchased, Spriggan was a dead server. All those plots had devalued to their lowest price. I won't drag morality into it because everyone has their own opinions, but you can't compare the ownership of entire wards that were bought under weird circumstances with what is going on now.

    SE is the one who decided all FC members can buy tickets, so perhaps you can ask them to rethink that idea.

    (I find it interesting everyone drags the <Lucis> FC but never mentions the <Moon> FCs on Mateus anymore, or other ward owners. Nothing but an amusing observation on my part with this tangent.)
    People bring up the ones they're most familiar with. Not to mention that Mateus was done long before the 4.2 housing changes while the Lucis set up was done entirely after since Spriggan was a new world.

    But you're right that those aren't the only ones. I saw a lot of similar set ups when I was doing a world wide census back in 2019. Didn't matter where I was, every data center and most worlds had similar set ups operating in at least one ward if not two or three. When you see the ward filled with FCs using the same tag and that were established after January 2018, you know you're looking at someone abusing the system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    I would call this fixation on Spriggan unhealthy. They were bought under other circumstances back in the past (dead server, no buying restriction etc). You should better invest your time in blaming at Square for the minimum of supply.
    Or better blame the Board of Square for collecting money from FFXIV and invest it in failures like Avengers etc. instead of reinvesting it in FFXIV.

    What comes next that its all a conspiracy of the Illuminati that all Houses are now favour FCs instead of Personals?
    Spriggan (and Twintania) might have had a surplus of available houses at the time but the rules were still already in existence. One personal and one FC house per world per service account. I highly doubt there's a separate service account for each of those houses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    It is a fair system, also bye bye you lame botters!!!
    The use of a bot program might no longer be necessary but all those characters still exist and will still be entering into the lottery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heh View Post
    If you think this is a fair because it's a lottery, congratulations.

    While I was turning in my GC seals (was a guildless sprout), I had someone who whispered me asking if I could help him gather signature cuz they wanted to form an FC and will send some gill. I agreed and he paid me 10k gills afterwards. Then he asks if I want to do it some more. Back then I didn't know, I was just happy getting 100k gill for doing nothing.

    I guess he was getting ready for today patch
    Very likely. RMT isn't dumb. They watch for opportunity and plan ahead.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 04-12-2022 at 05:52 AM.