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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Actually I'm pretty sure it has more to do with it massively sucking when your opener has no crits and your damage nosedive because your biggest hits did half the damage of someone who got lucky.

    It is not fun having a DRG and dnc partner, and getting a 0 crit opener.
    As DNC being my main job, would you say this change is going to be better for SAM (DNC aside).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anemic View Post
    As DNC being my main job, would you say this change is going to be better for SAM (DNC aside).
    Personally, I don't care about kaiten. That loss has no effect on me, and more consistent damage is better than RNG damage.

    It felt awful having to pray for crits and direct crits to get decent runs.

    So from my point of view, this is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Personally, I don't care about kaiten. That loss has no effect on me, and more consistent damage is better than RNG damage.

    It felt awful having to pray for crits and direct crits to get decent runs.

    So from my point of view, this is better.
    I'm still fairly new to a lot of the jobs and still struggle (mentally) with if I am doing the rotations correctly etc and always looking up info online. My SAM job is only 70 and from 1 to 70 thus far, been having a lot of fun with it. The job doesn't seem overly difficult like for example BLM (too much going on there for me personally, but then again my main job is DNC so yeah). I joined FFXIV last year at the end of August and have been mainly casual since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Personally, I don't care about kaiten. That loss has no effect on me, and more consistent damage is better than RNG damage.

    It felt awful having to pray for crits and direct crits to get decent runs.

    So from my point of view, this is better.
    Have you considered the fact that Midare will be doing significantly less damage now?

    Old Midare: 660 + Kaiten = 990, but can crit and direct hit on top of the 990

    New Midare 600, no kaiten, and because it auto crits, that means you cannot get additional crit+dh damage on top of the 600.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Have you considered the fact that Midare will be doing significantly less damage now?

    Old Midare: 660 + Kaiten = 990, but can crit and direct hit on top of the 990

    New Midare 600, no kaiten, and because it auto crits, that means you cannot get additional crit+dh damage on top of the 600.
    That doesn't bother me any. It's now less punishing to not get lucky, which has nothing to do with skill.

    Before, you could only get base potencies on them the whole fight if you were unlucky.

    That feels terrible and has nothing to do with your ability
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 04-12-2022 at 05:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    That doesn't bother me any. It's now less punishing to not get lucky, which has nothing to do with skill.

    Before, you could only get base potencies on them the whole fight if you were unlucky.

    That feels terrible and has nothing to do with your ability
    You realize that, compared to pre-patch, they basically made it so you only get base potencies all the time, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    You realize that, compared to pre-patch, they basically made it so you only get base potencies all the time, right?
    OK? Damage is still pretty much equal to before patch, so why should that bother me. Big crits are fun, but it was only ever relief, not excitement, when I got them on clear runs.


    Maybe it has something to do with my personal history, but I'm quite adaptable and stuff like this doesn't really faze me. People told me when SAM changed in 6.0 that I should just deal with the changes or move on, and "it shouldn't be changed to your wants". So I did. Now that one small issue from my point of view is fixed, I can probably enjoy the job again, but a lot of those same people are crying about the change. I just find that slightly funny.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 04-12-2022 at 06:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anemic View Post
    As DNC being my main job, would you say this change is going to be better for SAM (DNC aside).
    It's a buff if RNGesus hates you and you never get a crit. If you were blessed with Crit though, it's a nerf
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