SAM changes - I don’t mind it

[ryouma17]

i like the new changes, why should i have to press a button everyone i wanna unleash my 3 seal ability just so i can make it a bit stronger when the ability can just be stronger on its own, as a controller user iam already forced to leave off some abilities from my bars so any bloat reduction is a good thing, i dont wanna have to swap between 3+ hotbars just to do a rotation this is not my idea of fun

[Divinewindx]

The points people made are in their respective threads, do your own due diligence.

[Minarisweet]

I mean I hope it feels good to admit you can't empathize with the other people.

[BaconBits]

i like the new changes, why should i have to press a button everyone i wanna unleash my 3 seal ability just so i can make it a bit stronger when the ability can just be stronger on its own, as a controller user iam already forced to leave off some abilities from my bars so any bloat reduction is a good thing, i dont wanna have to swap between 3+ hotbars just to do a rotation this is not my idea of fun

Every time I see this I'm just left wondering if I'm somehow the only controller user that even knows what the WXHB is. As if double tapping L2/R2 or L2+R2/R2+L2 to access three additional hotbars on the fly is some sort of forbidden technique.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Every time I see this I'm just left wondering if I'm somehow the only controller user that even knows what the WXHB is. As if double tapping L2/R2 or L2+R2/R2+L2 to access three additional hotbars on the fly is some sort of forbidden technique.

Not everyone is able to use that feature well. I certainly can't. I use a keyboard for that reason, but we're still limited on actual usable space.

Shouldn't need to play a piano to do combat lol

[Vencio]

i like the new changes, why should i have to press a button everyone i wanna unleash my 3 seal ability just so i can make it a bit stronger when the ability can just be stronger on its own, as a controller user iam already forced to leave off some abilities from my bars so any bloat reduction is a good thing, i dont wanna have to swap between 3+ hotbars just to do a rotation this is not my idea of fun

Precisely my thoughts!!

The over hoarding of abilities just irritates me & I just am forced to use what’s only deemed neccesary. If anything I can’t stand having a variety of hot bars + on top of other utilities that overflows my playing screen which kills my immersion of the game.

Without attempting to add salt into injury this is why I credit ESO due to its simplicity & ability modification talent & everything else is just immersion.

PS: I am also a controller user on Ps4

[localareanetwork]

I don't mind it either. Kaiten barely counts as a button or a mechanic / skill

1.you never don't have kenki for it because it's the primary spend with Shinten being 100% filler to stop overcap so there's no management of resources
2. you always use it on every iaijutsu so there's no management of its' application besides not being a freestyle samurai (e.g. trying to play stupid on purpose or being BRAND new to the job)
if you removed it, added 50% potency to Higan, Tenka, and Midare, and made any iai cost 25 kenki to use, there would be literally no difference besides your oGCD slot before an iai being freed up

Worst of all it is not even in the Stormblood trailer as people keep saying. Sorry for those who don't like the change.

[SeverianLyonesse]

I don't mind it either. Kaiten barely counts as a button or a mechanic / skill

1.you never don't have kenki for it because it's the primary spend with Shinten being 100% filler to stop overcap so there's no management of resources
2. you always use it on every iaijutsu so there's no management of its' application besides not being a freestyle samurai (e.g. trying to play stupid on purpose or being BRAND new to the job)
if you removed it, added 50% potency to Higan, Tenka, and Midare, and made any iai cost 25 kenki to use, there would be literally no difference besides your oGCD slot before an iai being freed up

Worst of all it is not even in the Stormblood trailer as people keep saying. Sorry for those who don't like the change.

Why tf would Iai cost kenki on top of Sen?

[SargeTheSeagull]

Please understand that it's not even just about Kaiten's removal at this point, it's just the latest. If there is something that even has the hint of a failure state, it is being slowly removed from the game. The developers very rarely add things that make jobs more engaging or more fun for it's core audience, compared to destroying elements of jobs entirely, and would rather remove to improve.

Some of the things being removed are things that people liked a lot, and there is zero faith any of those things we liked about the game are ever going to return. What SAM players are dealing with right now are what Tanks and Healers have been having to put up with for years, as the entire combat loop stagnates. I don't feel like any job has been "improved". Just which job has had the least ripped out of it overtime.

Doesn't help that rather than people empathize that there are certain sides of the game that have been around since before the population explosions have started to feel alienated, instead we get screamed at to unsubscribe and how whatever we're saying has no merit. There's a lot of anger right now, a lot of strawmanning.

This gutting happens again, and again, and more of us actually will leave and then you won't see topics like this anymore, since we will all have given up on the game, like how SE has given up on having engaging and sensible job design.

There's nothing wrong with that, of course. Game will still work for most, which is most important. It's just sad for people who liked how things were and where things could have gone. I'm just tired of having fun things being taken away from me.

Hit the nail on the head my friend. I actually started (yes, started) playing world of Warcraft to get my healer fix. Disc priest feels a lot like pre 5.0 healers and it’s refreshing.

[TaleraRistain]

PS: I don't believe you are not trolling or stirring up flame, I think you are another one of the toxic positive casual fan boys that believes your spokes person Yoshi P can do no wrong. Which that is all he is I wouldn't even call him a director anymore at this point.

I'd look in the mirror here if you want to see toxic. OP has different feelings than those opposed and is giving their reasons. They're not saying anyone else is wrong and are asking what the arguments against it are.