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  1. #21
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    Anvaire's Avatar
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    Rihan Nurarihyon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flana View Post


    You have far more hope in the team than I do. I remember them promising us more glamours (including just more different colored carbuncles) back in 3.55. We're almost at 6.1. They never delivered, despite saying this entire time (pre-6.0) that it was being worked on.
    True, but i think the issue with Egi Glamours was the amount of animations they would need to create and that a lot of people wanted other primal glamours over new carbuncle colours. I also think they were trying to decide if they were going to keep egi's at all. With how they did the rework, they just need to change the colour of the ruin spell and add 1 new ability for Astral flow.

    Ill admit its a hope i do think may not come to pass at all though.
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  2. #22
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    Korbei Korobei
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    I do not like watching Carby stand around doing nothing. It looks broken. A bit of dps or party heals like a chocobo wouldn't go amiss, I think. A little bit egi, a little bit fairy.
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  3. #23
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    Kana Kharanku
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    True, but i think the issue with Egi Glamours was the amount of animations they would need to create and that a lot of people wanted other primal glamours over new carbuncle colours. I also think they were trying to decide if they were going to keep egi's at all. With how they did the rework, they just need to change the colour of the ruin spell and add 1 new ability for Astral flow.

    Ill admit its a hope i do think may not come to pass at all though.
    Adding a new Astral Flow ability is significantly more work than just model swapping the old egi, and this can have massive implications to the job's damage. The options they gave us as examples (Ramuh and Sephirot) are already in the game, so the delay becomes even more ridiculous. I would have more faith if they just told us it was cancelled.
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    Last edited by Flana; 04-06-2022 at 02:39 AM.

  4. #24
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbei View Post
    I do not like watching Carby stand around doing nothing. It looks broken. A bit of dps or party heals like a chocobo wouldn't go amiss, I think. A little bit egi, a little bit fairy.
    To be fair, though, in previous games, Carbuncle as a summon was always a purely defensive spell. I never played XI, so that might be an outlier, but in VI, VIII, and IX it just provided defensive buffs.
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  5. #25
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    To be fair, though, in previous games, Carbuncle as a summon was always a purely defensive spell. I never played XI, so that might be an outlier, but in VI, VIII, and IX it just provided defensive buffs.
    To be fair, though, in previous expansions, Carbuncle contributed equally as much as other Summons. I haven’t played 6.1, so that might be an outlier, but in A Realm Reborn, Heavensward, Stormblood, and Shadowbringers it functioned identically to the Egi.
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  6. #26
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    To be fair, though, in previous expansions, Carbuncle contributed equally as much as other Summons. I haven’t played 6.1, so that might be an outlier, but in A Realm Reborn, Heavensward, Stormblood, and Shadowbringers it functioned identically to the Egi.
    At lower levels Carbuncle still contributes the same, since you summon him before the egi summons just like before 6.0 and you can glamour the egis to still be carbuncles if you want, just like before 6.0
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    At lower levels Carbuncle still contributes the same, since you summon him before the egi summons just like before 6.0 and you can glamour the egis to still be carbuncles if you want, just like before 6.0
    I'd go on the rant but truthfully speaking if you want it just watch this other guy's video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwMUfh8VrQ
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    Petition Thread for "Playable Loporrits": https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436512-Make-them-Playable-You-Cowards
    Are You Happy with the Endwalker Healer Reveal? - Poll: https://strawpoll.vote/polls/2e6mxhnx/vote - Thread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/443437-Poll-Are-You-Happy-with-the-Healer-Kit-Reveal-for-Endwalker

    Mechanics are Aesthetics. Graphics don't make interesting gameplay.

  8. #28
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    Carby Adalena
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    They still haven’t even acknowledged it in the system part of the patch notes.
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    I'm from 1 MS in the future.

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    Tolo Rewd
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    To be fair, though, in previous games, Carbuncle as a summon was always a purely defensive spell. I never played XI, so that might be an outlier, but in VI, VIII, and IX it just provided defensive buffs.
    It did attack in FF11.

    Anyway, black mages never used ice spells to regain MP either. Can we put the "But in previous FF games .." argument to rest forever?
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  10. #30
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    It did attack in FF11.

    Anyway, black mages never used ice spells to regain MP either. Can we put the "But in previous FF games .." argument to rest forever?
    Certain things in games have identities. Carbuncle has almost always been a defensive buff spell with no damage attached to it. So this current carbuncle is a more faithful adaptation of the spell. Having carbuncle deal damage felt like it made about as much sense as changing Ifrit to being a party heal.

    So no, I'm not going to stop basing the identity of characters and effects on previous games.
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